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AustinAndPenny 10-08-2012 09:22 AM

New kid in the barn "showing you up" with grooming
 
I was visiting this barn yesterday, they were having an open house. And this lady was letting people brush her one horse, because he liked the attention and she was getting ready to go riding. Well, while I was doing my turn, the lady had to use the restroom, and no one else was in line so she said I could groom the horse untill she came back. I noticed a kid lead in a horse, either her horse or a lesson horse and groom and untack the horse with two other girls.
Then the kid came over. And she's like "Can I see the brush?" Bad idea I should say. The girl starts brushing the horse, against the hair growth. Against it! :-x:shock: Then she gets the hoof pick from the groming box and picks the feet out from the toe to heel, not being careful at all to not mess with the frog. So by the time the lady came back, she only took about seven minutes, including waiting in line. I explained to her that she should groom the horse properly, and check the frogs of the feet for any damage. So she said she would and thanked me for telling her, then I mentioned something about the horse that the girl brought in and she said she'd take a look at the horse.

Has anyone ever felt like a kid way younger than you has ever shown you up with grooming? I'm also going to make another topic for experiances besides grooming in another forum. I can't figure out the one it'd go itno though.

Saddlebag 10-08-2012 11:30 AM

Sometimes when something like this happens the kid may live with a lot of criticism either at home or school and it's the one thing she thinks she can do well and wants to be helpful.

goingnowhere1 10-08-2012 07:37 PM

My daughter, fourteen, works at a barn and helps with beginner lessons, sometimes actually teaching the lesson. There is one little boy who is bound and determined that everything she tells him to do is wrong, he has been riding for three months. So yes, he thinks he is right and won't admit he isn't, my kid knows he is wrong and ignores him, but I know how you feel.

LadyDreamer 10-09-2012 11:21 AM

At least you got an "Okay" when you said something and not "I know". That bugs the ever living day lights out of me when you are teaching a kid something and they say "I know". Makes me want to smash them into the ground and show them how much they don't know.
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Delfina 10-09-2012 01:54 PM

Nope

I board with mature adults. There is no "showing up" of anyone. Plenty of respectful advice and assistance though.

When my horse needed to stand for 45mins while his pads set up, my BO showed me a massage technique that turned my wiggle worm of a horse into a completely calm, half asleep horse that snoozed until the farrier was done. Was she thinking "oh hey, I sure showed her!".... no, more like "Yay, that worked and with any luck we won't be standing out here, freezing our butts off, doing that again".

Nobody knows everything. We had a very high level rider visit the barn and she accidentally put boots on the wrong legs of the horse she was going to ride. I didn't "show her up" but I did quietly mention that the boots needed to be switched and later on that day she gave my horse a free training ride. Highly doubt she would have been so inclined if I'd snottily pointed out my superior knowledge in boots.

Nobody likes an insufferable know-it-all and the more you attempt to lord your supposed "superior knowledge" over them, the fewer friends and opportunities you will have in life.

Inga 10-09-2012 02:39 PM

Well, you know what they say, "a little knowledge is dangerous" I find that the best thing to do is to wait until the kid is alone so you can school them without them being embarrassed in front of peers. Nobody wants to feel like they don't know something and kids at that age are especially vulnerable to criticism by peers. They WANT to know more then others. They WANT to succeed but sometimes try too hard to know it all before they actually do. Also, sometimes just being a good example is a great help. These kids might simply see you doing it right and wish to parrot those behaviors.

Foxhunter 10-11-2012 05:34 PM

If you know it was wrong then you should have just quietly said something to her and explained the reasoning for it.

In all reality she was not doing anything at all harmful to the horse.
You can pick its feet out toe to heel and also run the hoof pick up the frog without doing any harm. If it did then horses would be in a lot of trouble standing on stones.

Also, brushing against the hair is no deadly sin. When really strapping a horse I will 'boot brush' with the body brush to get all the grease out. If the horse is muddy then I will also scrub back and forth with a dandy brush. Haven't done any harm to any horse yet.

Very few people know how to really strap a horse, it is a dying art.

Tarpan 10-11-2012 09:36 PM

Yeah I brush against the grain of the hair all the time and with plenty of elbow grease, that's how I get the worst of the shedding hair out of his coat. He leans into it - especially when I'm brushing his butt, dirty boy! - so it can't be that bad for him. I know it's supposed to be a no-no, though.

Lexiie 10-11-2012 09:58 PM

I don't even use rubber curries in a circles anymore, it's usually back and forth to get all the nasty mud off.

I'm only 16, but if someone tries to show me up, I just ignore it. It's whatever(:
I do love getting advice from people who know what they're doing now, when I was little I hated it.

Tnavas 10-12-2012 11:05 PM

Foxhunter - it is not safe to use a hoofpick from toe to heel as you can inadvertently forces stones/mud even the end of the hoof pick into the depths of the frog, especially risky if the horse has developed thrush - my farrier did this one day and my young horse didn't let him forget for a long time.

Highly suspect is scrubbing back and forth with the brush, across the lie of the hair is fine but against it is definately not on.

Will agree that few people truly strap their horses these days - its wash the dirt off most of the time. The shine you get with a strapped horse is so different to the shine from a bathed horse. The pic below is of my youngster strapped daily for a minimum of 45mins
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...ara001-1-1.jpg


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