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Shropshirerosie 10-09-2012 06:55 PM

Ground Work Exercises. Your suggestions please.
 
Hello to all. As I am in a sling for the next month (or so), I'd like to take the opportunity to do some groundwork with my boys. I've 'toyed' with it before, but never at any length so I'd really like some pointers on where to look for exercises/training methods/things to do. Books or websites - please tell me what you rate.

Oh - and clicker training will be out of the question as I'll be the one-armed wonder for a while; can't be cluttering up my hand with a clicker or treats!

Thank you in advance.

DraftyAiresMum 10-09-2012 07:11 PM

Just curious, you wouldn't be able to hold the clicker in your hand that's in the sling and put the treats in your sling? Just a thought...

Muppetgirl 10-09-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum (Post 1712819)
Just curious, you wouldn't be able to hold the clicker in your hand that's in the sling and put the treats in your sling? Just a thought...

Aaaaargh big horse nose inside the sling! Haha ouch!!!! Sorry! I'm feeling the pain! :lol:

Shropshirerosie 10-09-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl (Post 1713056)
Aaaaargh big horse nose inside the sling! Haha ouch!!!! Sorry! I'm feeling the pain! :lol:

Ha ha wayy to dangerous. Broken bones in arm held together with screws and steel plate are in much pain already, without either rotating hand to treats, or having big nose nudge broken arm out of the way to get to treats :lol:

Muppetgirl 10-09-2012 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shropshirerosie (Post 1713077)
Ha ha wayy to dangerous. Broken bones in arm held together with screws and steel plate are in much pain already, without either rotating hand to treats, or having big nose nudge broken arm out of the way to get to treats :lol:

Egads!!! Haha I hate being a visual person! I can see the big honking nose either getting under your arm and pushing it up or pushing it down in a frantic slobbery nuzzling treasure hunt inside your sling!!!

Shropshirerosie 10-09-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl (Post 1713080)
Egads!!! Haha I hate being a visual person! I can see the big honking nose either getting under your arm and pushing it up or pushing it down in a frantic slobbery nuzzling treasure hunt inside your sling!!!

Aaaghhhhhh! I've just fainted with the pain :shock:

Muppetgirl 10-09-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shropshirerosie (Post 1713084)
Aaaghhhhhh! I've just fainted with the pain :shock:

BAHAHAHAHA! so good to have a good laugh! Take care of that arm.....haha I suggest just to be on the safe side, duct taping two longe whips together and just poking him away from you until you're better! :lol:

PunksTank 10-09-2012 10:26 PM

YoI think you're right, that could be totally dangerous, if the horse isn't taught manners with CT first.

Personally I do clicker training any I don't use more than one hand. I keep my treats in a mug that's attached to my belt, but a 'fanny pack' works better if you've got one. I don't use a clicker, I make a 'smooch' noise with my mouth, to cue that he did the right thing.
I spend the first day, with 3 different 5-10 minute sessions with the horse just teaching them that mugging earns them nothing. The way I do this is by standing beside them (or on the other side of the fence/door with a potentially aggressive or overly pushy horse) and waiting. Of course the first thing they're going to do is dive for the food. In your case I'd do this on the other side of the door/fence so as not to risk your arm (yowch!). They will try and mug, but you just ignore them, step away, just stay by their shoulder (or just out of reach out the door). The moment they look away, even if there's a distraction, the moment they turn their head away click/smooch and treat. Feed the treat arms length away - I personally feed them just behind their chin so they need to back up a little to get it. This just helps reinforce the personal space requirement. After 2-3 sessions of this most horses are solid that the only way to get food is by standing at a respectful distance and looking away. This also teaches them that the click/smooch means "yes, you get a treat".

From here I take it to targetting, I use a crop with colorful duct tape on the end (so they can see it easier). I hold it out, and naturally most horses will sniff it or nudge it. My mare was horrified of crops (for obvious reasons) So it took a little longer with her. I had to click/treat whenever she got close to it. Repeat until she got that, then I would touch her nose with the crop and click/treat before she fully realized and pulled away. My pony on the other hand touched the crop himself out of curiosity. You repeat this until they will touch their nose to the crop no matter where you put it, up or down or left or right, I even use it to help my mare stretch, bringing her nose all around to her sides and down between her front hooves and all.
With them both I worked on teaching them to not just touch, but to follow the crop. My pony does this to go through unmounted obstacle courses, over jumps and through tunnels and such (picture a dog agility course). My mare I used this skill to help her overcome her fear of new places/things. She was horrified of leaving her paddock, this gave her the confidence. When she was afraid of my car, I just brought her over to it using C/T following the crop, being sure to C/T just before she got too nervous to go forward again.

You can then teach them pretty much every skill with the click being the bridge to mean "yes that's what I want". You can teach them all sorts of silly tricks, but you can also teach them meaningful things, just an example: if you do dressage you can use it to motivate them to do more advanced and difficult maneuvers like Piaffes and all. You can of course carry on these skills undersaddle for when they're learning a new skill. If they won't stand still for mounting CT is a great way to help that.

Here are some videos I used to help me learn how:
Video 1

tinyliny 10-09-2012 10:27 PM

first of all, did I miss a thread where you explained how you broke your arm? must be a good battle story, no?

I think anything that requires you to hold a line and change the line from one hand to another is out,. In fact, unless you know the horses are pretty solid on leading, and not likely to ever really pull hard and sudden, I would not do any kind of work where you are "connected" physically to them , for fear of sudden movement that would be very painful/damaging.

you can get a long stick or a whip and teach them to put their noses on things by placing treats on things all around the pasture, then direct them toward the item where the treat is (using your stick) and teach them to put their nose on it. Next , teach them to roll a ball along the ground (but does require having small treats to reward them. you'd have to get creative on how to do that.

Free lunge them over jumps and cavaletti.
Do some desensitizing with tarps and such.
teach "lower your head" (needs only one hand to do)


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