Help!
 

Hey, I've made some kind of mistake with my horses spin! I don't know what I did, but I am experiencing the results!!!!
My guy is a finished reiner (been shown, very willing and happy, sensitive), so he knows what to do....he USED to spin real nice, smooth.

Now....for some reason he is moving his back end too much....he's not covering ground and moving across the arena, but I can feel it moving around back there and don't really know what to do to correct it and what NOT to do to ensure this doesn't happen again! Aaaaaggggghhhh!!!!!!

What makes a good spinner start doing this? And what can I do to correct it?
I always start with forward motion and as soon as he's moving I lower the reins down to his wither and let him spin....sigh......tricky stuff!!!!

Help???

hmmmm no clue, good post:):)

Thanks Spotted! I have been wondering what the heck he's doing back there!! It's me I know it!!!
I'm doing some strange or very wrong thing.....

Are you able to video yourself??

I've thought about it......maybe I will take the camcorder to the barn on Monday.....ugh, don't want to see!!!

It sounds like he is bottle spinning, You can back him into it (just watch his shoulder and make sure he doesn't step under, if he does, kick him out of the turn and drive him forward into the bridle and do it again), or pass him in a circle and then pull him down into it, there are a few other ways

You dont want to back into a spin. A spin is a forward movement, not backwards.
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Thankyou! Yes I was thinking of passing him in to see if he will start engaging that hip again. He has not been a horse to drive that pivot leg down and keep it there, but he did spin without 'bottle spinning' like you say (thanks, now I know how to describe it) I've been told not to back them into a spin, but I've thought about it to get that back end down and engaged....

Other thoughts?

We all know that, that's for horses who don't know the basics. but there are tricks, and if you're smart about it you certainly can. If you do it incorrectly, and don't watch the front shoulder or let them suck too far back it can lead to problems...

It's also referred to as turning like a confused tornado, that's the rated G version. :)