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PunksTank 10-14-2012 09:21 AM

Wall Kicking AHHH!!
 
I'm so furious! My mare knows wall kicking is absolutely against the rules! She will never do it when I'm with her. But I live in an apartment upstairs of the barn. She knows I can hear her when I'm upstairs.
When we first moved in I made the mistake of running downstairs at every little thump and bump to make sure they were OK and often tossing them a little more hay. Well that has stopped.
The biggest problem is I feed at different times, depending when I have to be up for work. Occasionally at 6, normally at 9, if I don't have work it may be a little later but I compromised with the horses and decided 9 is the latest I'll feed them.
I made my mare a hay net so that her hay will last about half the night before she runs out, so she'll be less anxious for it in the morning.
But yesterday I had to feed at 6, so today, sure enough at 6 Boom!! She starts her wall kicking. About 5-10 thumps for about 2 minutes, then she'll wait 5-10 minutes before starting again. She has done this until 9 when I fed her.
Is there any way to stop her? If I go downstairs she will not kick the wall, so I can't catch her in the act to yell at her. I don't want to resort to things like kick chains, they kind of horrify me. If there anything else I can do to stop this?

Janna 10-14-2012 09:55 AM

Small hole hay net.
So she can barely get any out

Foxhunter 10-14-2012 01:33 PM

I agree to give her a small holed net so her hay lasts longer.

You did make a mistake by rewarding the noise. Now is the time to reverse the action. When she kicks for attention go down and give her a darn good chase around the stable so she is going backwards, so that her head is up in the air and she thinks the devil himself is after her.
When she shows signs of submission leave her and return upstairs.

She was sharp enough to learn that banging brought rewards, she is sharp enough to learn that banging brings the fright of her life.

SaddleStrings 10-14-2012 01:46 PM

My mare does this at morning feeding as well. My BO says they usually feed everyone first and if Belle is still kicking by the time they get to her, they just walk away and come back when she has quieted down. They try to avoid rewarding bad behavior. Seems to be working as Belle doesn't throw a tantrum too much any more.

deserthorsewoman 10-14-2012 02:05 PM

Punks.....admit it.....you got this horse just to have problems.....:-)

I agree with a small-holed net. I made 3 , different sizes, and hung them on different post of the paddock fence. Still put a little on the ground, again, different spots. Then i weighed the filled nets, what I put down, and what was leftover next morning to get an idea of how much they eat. Consumption, free choice, went down from 25 to about 16, 17 lbs per horse. And not very much excitement when I come out for the feedings....in fact, they barely come over to me. Sure is nice and proves that the slowfeeder nets work. It will take about 10 days for them to understand that they'll never be without food and that there is no need to get excited.
So, make a net or even two with holes no bigger than 2"
And just ignore her banging the walls. She will eventually learn that it doesn't get her anywhere.

riccil0ve 10-14-2012 02:15 PM

I agree with a small hole haynet to keep your horse busy. My other advice is to feed them at the same time every day. I know full and well that sometimes it just works better to feed later, or you start work later so don't have to be up as early, but it'll help everyone involved if you just get up at 6, feed, and go back to bed for a few hours.
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Spotted 10-14-2012 02:17 PM

I agree, get a slow feed net and even double it, to keep her busy. just make sure she does get eat the right amount of hay per day. I too, feed at different times, I read somewhere thats a good thing, because there isn't so much anxiety ( which causes ulcers ). I found some nets for $7.99 if your interested. I believe they are big enough to put a square bale in, but I usually just put loose hay in and they work great, in the stall or in a tree, or hung on the fence.

riccil0ve 10-14-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spotted (Post 1718856)
I agree, get a slow feed net and even double it, to keep her busy. just make sure she does get eat the right amount of hay per day. I too, feed at different times, I read somewhere thats a good thing, because there isn't so much anxiety ( which causes ulcers ). I found some nets for $7.99 if your interested. I believe they are big enough to put a square bale in, but I usually just put loose hay in and they work great, in the stall or in a tree, or hung on the fence.

Really? I had never heard that before. Makes logical sense, but I'm not sure how it would work that way if you have to feed at 6 five days a week and you sleep in on the weekends.
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PunksTank 10-14-2012 03:10 PM

Thanks everyone. I made her hay net and the holes are pretty big, just small enough not to get a hoof in. I didn't want to waste money if she was just gonna shred t, but she hasn't. I'll make her one with smaller holes.

Desert- i think your right! I bought her just to remind me not to get another xD just kidding, i do love her and have actually been able to ride her more now that her other issues are working out :D she's doing much better on this diet, still itchy but cortosone and desitin have helped that. She's starting to look a little more healthy, even though she's still real fat. Thank you again for all your help, my learning curve was pretty steep getting my first horse and keeping her at home without any much more knowledgable help. But i think things are really sorting out now :)
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ETA: oh and i only feed her at 6 one day a week, only some weeks when i cover for my boss at work, but it's typically 9 when she gets fed, doesn't stop her from being rude from 7 on though. I'll try the better net :P

EvilHorseOfDoom 10-15-2012 03:53 AM

Ignore. Brock used to scrape his feet for attention (even negative attention i.e. punishment) - I stopped reacting, he stopped doing it.

He used to wall kick too - he did it while I was in the stable once, I kicked a heap of shavings over his back legs, he leaped like a cat and never did it again lol.


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