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verona1016 10-22-2012 07:41 PM

Thrush not improving- wait or try something new?
 
I've been treating my horse daily for thrush since the farrier cut off all his ugly, loose flaps at his last farrier visit (10/8- actually treated with ThrushBuster a few days before that, too), but I'm not seeing any major improvements. I've been using ThrushBuster once a week and No Thrush the other 6 days of the week. I watched the video on No Thrush's website and I'm pretty sure I'm using it correctly.

How long should it take to see an improvement in frog health? The No Thrush website shows obviously better frogs after 4 days; while I didn't expect that in 'real life,' I was hoping to see some change after nearly 2 weeks. Am I messing things up by using both No Thrush and ThrushBuster?

Am I on the right track, or should I switch it up and try something else?

(Natural light photos are from 10/8; flash photos are from 10/20 after 12 days of treatment)

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luv my horse hinke 10-22-2012 07:51 PM

we mixed bedadine and sugar to make a paste then Picked out the hoof and packed the mixture into the hoof

alexis rose 10-22-2012 08:21 PM

I am battling Thrush too and would like to see what others say for treatment. I had a lady at work suggest bleach because that is what she did for her horse but I just can't bring myself to do that........

Jore 10-22-2012 08:27 PM

I know that a lot of people might not agree with this recommendation but I've been using CopperSet for my mare. It's worked wonders.

My farrier recommended it after seeing my mare's hooves (all four had thrush; hind feet were the worst) and showed me how to apply it. I just bought a syringe and I'd put it into the crack and wherever else it was needed. (at the start, I just put it over most of the top since it was up to the hairline)

At the start of treatment, about half of her frog on her hind right leg was gone (ie: bottom half seemed to be non-existent as there was a big hole).. and now, six weeks later, it's grown back quite well (although the farrier said that it'll take longer for it to grow back fully due to how bad it was).

Joe4d 10-22-2012 09:54 PM

bleach will kill the thrush, it will also kill everything else including the healthy hoof tissue trying to grow back.
Clean the foot with a hoof pick, then a scrub brush with warm water and a disinfectant mixed in like concentrated lysol, or pinsol, pat dry then use a comercial thrush medicine like Thrush XXX, or the thrush buster you have. Make sure the horse is getting adequate copper and biotin in his diet.

BossHoss 10-22-2012 10:18 PM

We have recently had an outbreak of this as well. We were using thrushbuster, and it didn't do anything. We went to copper sulfate, and that didn't do much either. We're on antibiotics at this point.

The rest of the time, it's putting down mats and lime and making sure they aren't standing in their own waste, etc. :S Good luck!!!

Saddlebag 10-23-2012 12:25 AM

At the pharmacy purchase a catheter syringe. It's large and has a long pointed snout. Get a tube of triple antibiotic cream and one of fungal cream. Mix the two in a dish then fill the tube. Before doing this make a foot soak of 1 ounce of Lyesol to 1 gal of water. Do be accurate. Soak for about 20 min. dry the hoof then apply the cream. The syringe will get it into the nooks and crannies. Also twice daily use Dawn dish soap and clean the hooves, using a brush to get it into the nooks and crannies.

HorseCrazyTeen 10-23-2012 01:45 AM

Yeah... bleach is a good example of a bad idea. Like Joe said, it will kill the the bad and the good. I did use it for a while when my horse had thrush a couple of years ago; it didn't work that great--though it was certainly better than nothing. But it's damaging, plus chlorine bleach has a very short shelf life. Just because it smells nice doesn't mean it's active anymore.

My mom found out online that Listerine (original, not mint!) was supposed to work really well and didn't kill the hoof tissue. It was recommended so often that we decided to try it. I switched to that and the thrush was gone very quickly! I was pretty surprised by how well it worked, and took the stink away immediately. It also works on minor cuts and scrapes-- even use it on the dogs. It just works.

Otherwise, keeping him in a clean, dry environment is a good idea.

There does look like there has been a little bit of improvement but not as much as I would be expecting for that length of time.

gogaited 10-23-2012 02:20 AM

I used bleach once a week or so and never had any thrush.
In rainy WA.

verona1016 10-23-2012 04:44 PM

Thanks for the recommendations :-) I definitely have a few more ideas to try out now

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Originally Posted by Jore (Post 1728632)
I know that a lot of people might not agree with this recommendation but I've been using CopperSet for my mare. It's worked wonders.

I tried searching Google for CopperSet but didn't come up with anything. Do you know of a website for that product? How long did it take before you noticed improvement?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe4d (Post 1728782)
bleach will kill the thrush, it will also kill everything else including the healthy hoof tissue trying to grow back.
Clean the foot with a hoof pick, then a scrub brush with warm water and a disinfectant mixed in like concentrated lysol, or pinsol, pat dry then use a comercial thrush medicine like Thrush XXX, or the thrush buster you have. Make sure the horse is getting adequate copper and biotin in his diet.

Yeah, I'm not too keen on trying bleach. I think I'll give the disinfectant a go, though. Should I scrub with it daily? I'm very thorough (obsessive maybe?) with my horse's diet- fine tuned it out on FeedXL.com and weigh everything every time- so I'm reasonably certain he's not deficient in any major areas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossHoss (Post 1728802)
We have recently had an outbreak of this as well. We were using thrushbuster, and it didn't do anything. We went to copper sulfate, and that didn't do much either. We're on antibiotics at this point.

The rest of the time, it's putting down mats and lime and making sure they aren't standing in their own waste, etc. :S Good luck!!!

I've actually been cleaning out my horse's stall in the evening pretty much every day lately (so it's getting cleaned 2x daily). I'm not sure if the stall cleaner changed, if the BO started cracking down on them using too much shavings, or if my horse is just peeing more, but by the time I get there at night it hasn't been meeting my standards of cleanliness lately :-|

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saddlebag (Post 1728966)
At the pharmacy purchase a catheter syringe. It's large and has a long pointed snout. Get a tube of triple antibiotic cream and one of fungal cream. Mix the two in a dish then fill the tube. Before doing this make a foot soak of 1 ounce of Lyesol to 1 gal of water. Do be accurate. Soak for about 20 min. dry the hoof then apply the cream. The syringe will get it into the nooks and crannies. Also twice daily use Dawn dish soap and clean the hooves, using a brush to get it into the nooks and crannies.

Getting there twice daily on a consistent basis isn't really possible for me. I did try "Pete's Goo" for a while when I first got my horse, but saw better results with ThrushBuster. Lately I've been wondering if mixing tea tree oil into the goo might work better though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HorseCrazyTeen (Post 1729044)
My mom found out online that Listerine (original, not mint!) was supposed to work really well and didn't kill the hoof tissue. It was recommended so often that we decided to try it. I switched to that and the thrush was gone very quickly! I was pretty surprised by how well it worked, and took the stink away immediately. It also works on minor cuts and scrapes-- even use it on the dogs. It just works.

My farrier recommended Listerine, as well. I was a bit skeptical, and already had the ThrushBuster & No Thrush on hand, but maybe I should give that a try...


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