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What EXACTALLY do you look for in a reining horse. If you were looking at strictly conformation and no pedigree for a reining horse what would you want??
I am going to look at pedigree first then conformation. Regardless of how good a horses conformation is that does not mean they will be able to do reining at anything past a low level. Reining is a lot like cutting in the respect that these horses are bred with what it takes to perform at a high level.
The only thing is the breed i want to work with is pretty rare and the only reining bred horses ive seen would have to be imported from Germany.
Then you are going to have to deside on the horse vs the level you want to show reining at. If you are happy just doing it vs do well then find a horse who has good over all conformation and find a very good reining trainer and hope for the best. You might be surprised. If you want to show at a higher level then stick with a reining bred horse. Well a reining bred QH or Paint.
I know im going to have to start in a lower level however im hoping to be able to get some higher quality individuals through breeding. Id LOVE to A.I to some of the horses in Germany but i cant afford to buy one.
IMHO, to try to rein on a horse that is not bred for reining (or at least for cutting) would be like trying to make a stock dog out of a beagle. You can probably get a beagle to do a little of what you want, but a dog bred for many generations specifically to do a certain job well is completely different than trying to invent it over with a dog like a beagle. Same could be said for trying to hunt rabbits with a Pomeranian.
You cannot live long enough to breed the more talented individuals to the more talented individuals and come up with anything even close to the least talented reining bred horse out there.
It takes several things to make a good reining horse. Of course, these things are usually present in a well-bred prospect. You need strong, low-set hocks, a strong loin, short cannons (low set knees) and a smooth pleasant way of moving with its shoulders up and its head down. A reining horse needs to be a superb athlete that is very quick-footed and very coordinated. Probably the most important things a good reining prospect needs are a VERY good mind that lets you put a LOT of pressure on him and a very good mouth. Reining horses need to be 'micro-managed' in every little way. They have to completely give you every tiny part of their body and their mind. Even to rein at a low level requires all of the above.
My thought is to get a mare (or a couple) whom have good conformation for reining and get them bred to the stallions whom are already showing well. Foals should at least be good for lower level and then if i get any good fillies they could cross to other stallions from over there and to keep doing that until i get something ready to actually show NRHA (the stallions do show NRHA and have won a bit from what i understand)
You must be planning on living to be 150. Besides that, I doubt (I don't know for a fact since I do not breed half breeds) one of the REALLY GOOD NRHA stallions would breed to a totally unknown-not even QH mare. Doubtful. Also what do you plan on doing with all of the ones who are not good enough? Just rebreeding? THis doesn't sound like a plan to me. I can tell you I HAVE a cross who I have put way more $$ than I care to admit into in reining training mainly because I wanted a horse with a really good handle and I wanted just to have fun with reining-not show. I have shown once-that was it-it was fun, I am done, and now can just have fun. What you have been advised is 1000% correct. It is very rare, at least in the NRHA to have success with anything other than a QH perhaps an APHA. Now if you want to show Andalusians, Morgans or Arabs in their BREED classes-that is another story. We had one showing around here this summer who was a crossbreed and could be shown in his breed shows as such. I do not remember what he was....but he was at the NRHA shows for practice, then went and did ok at the breed shows, which are lower level.
I have no idea what your "rare breed" is, and you seem to want to keep it super top secret.....I can say I have seen some really wealthy folks around here try and make a go with Nakotas also......they did OK-again-could just not compete at high levels against the bred to death QH's.
You could just go do low levels if that is what you are happy with-I am......;-)
Cherie-you made me smile-guess I will call my guy a beagle from now on.....lol
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