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aappyfan1 08-31-2008 12:47 PM

gelding VS gelding?
 
Ok this probably not a training issue bue wasnt sure where to put this question. I have two geldings one was gelded as a yearling and didn't get bossy with the mares until his fifth year when he came back from training. The other gelding well still thinks a stud he was gelded last fall. These two fight constantly over the fence. more so since there is only one mare in with the first gelding. Is it normal for geldings to fight and do you think that they will ever get over it??

palogal 08-31-2008 12:51 PM

It really depends, the recently gelded one should get over it eventually or at least minimize the behavior. The best solution for a bossy gelding is a b****y broodmare! For real, find the grouchiest one you can find and turn her out with the worst one. She'll fix his wagon. My favorite broody is my attitude adjustment for any horse.

Cat 08-31-2008 01:05 PM

They could get over it, especially as the recently developed one looses those hormones still swimming in his system. However, I have found that sometimes some horses will never get along for whatever reason. Usually I see that between two mares but it is possible between any 2 horses. They may still be going at it, though, because they haven't determined where they are at in the pecking order and their spots are so close that its still a "debate".

loosie 09-10-2008 09:30 AM

Keeping them together, preferrably in a large paddock, without mares should help, as they will be able to establish their pecking order properly and they wont have girls to fight over. I would perhaps later introduce mares, depending on their relationship, once they were quite established together. They will likely still indulge in 'horse play' which can look quite scary to the uninitiated, but it's less likely to be more than a game.

While I agree with others who have said the recently gelded one could settle down when the hormones are no longer present, this depends on age and previous learned behaviour. I'm presuming the one gelded as a yearling was gelded youngest? This is still old enough for the horse to have had lots of experience playing happy stallions - even if he was too young to take it far. As with getting dogs done when they're already grown, depending on the animal's previous behaviour & experience, there may be little or no behavioural changes with The Cut.

Horse Poor 09-10-2008 01:34 PM

If the "other gelding" was gelded last fall, then he has no "hormones" running around. It's normal what they are doing...especially if there is a fence between them...expect a lot of pawing, snaking their heads over the fence to bite, biting of forelegs under/between the fence if it's a strand wire fence, rearing and so forth. I have 2 geldings that get along famously when in the same pasture, but do this almost constantly when separated by a fence where they are securing their own "territory".

Palogal - that is soooo true! They will even teach a stallion manners. You can take the rankest of stallions and put him in with a band of bred mares and the next day, he'll be begging for mercy at the gate!

chenay412 09-10-2008 01:57 PM

I agree for the most part with what everyone is saying. Unless they are proud cut, they dont have the hormones to act "stud-y". Some horses (mares or geldings) are just very territorial. We have one of each at our place... good Lord Katie kicks anyone and everyone thats next to her and Jordan bites anyone next to him. lol It's just who those horses are.

Im not ever really a fan of turning horses out together (for many reasons and Im a former "show" girl so that could explain it) except for brood mares WITHOUT shoes (of course).

LOL... And yes, gotta love those good ol' broodmares they will teach some manners!!!! :lol:


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