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Ladybug2001 11-04-2012 08:25 PM

Very nosey/bitey yearling gelding.
 
I bought this yearling back in June, but I've known him since a weanling. I know his background in training, but there was two months that I had no idea what was going on. Pretty much he was born in 2011 at my secondary school, halter broke there, and then sold as a yearling. I was one who got him ready to be sold and he had none of these habits prior. Pretty much since it was a school they had to do an auction on these horse, I bid on him three times and someone out bid me, which was no surprise because he was the best looking gelding out of all the others. A few months went buy, and who ever bought him put him up for sale and I snagged him... Well he came to my house with some bad habits. First off, he is the absolute nosiest horse I have ever seen! If he even thinks you have something for him, he is freakin' there, with his nose up your butt to see what you got. I could punch him in the face and all I would get is a broken hand. For the love of God, he ate a chicken egg because I didn't think he would be that stupid and let him mess with it to show I had nothing. So that is his bad habit, just always has his nose in your buisness. You give him a treat, he thinks you have a million more. He pins his ears back when you give him one and when you feed him. He use to push me every where and get into my bucket when I went to feed, but I broke him from that. He now stands off to the side with his ears back and waits for me to tell him he can eat. Though I'm at a loss on the treat/nosey issue. I've tried just waiting it out until he stops and puts his ears up, but he just goes right back to doing it. When he is trying to bite at me when I have one, I smack him. But he isn't understanding it....

Another thing that floors me, is he is extremely laid back dispite being an idiot most of he time. I can jump pratically ontop of him and he doesnt move a muscle. Though he is too tall for me to actually put full weight on. Except my dad kinda stood on the other side of him and pulled me to where I was fully on him and he just sat there... So its not that he is a bad horse that he has these issues.

I guess I would like to know everyone elses thoughts on how to approach this. A lot of people say just not to give horses treats, but I like treating my horses. My other three know better and I want him to know better so he stops teaching my 8 month old colt bad manners....

CLaPorte432 11-04-2012 08:34 PM

You need to stop treating him. When you lose a finger, youll wish you would have listened sooner.
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Casey02 11-04-2012 08:41 PM

Yeah I agree and you better start showing him whos boss fast, before it worsens. If slapping him isn't working then try something else like backing him up and working his feet, fast. Or using a whip and cracking it. I do not tolerate digging in the bucket (wheel barrow full of food ect) while I am holding it AT ALL. My horse waits until I have the food where I want it before he gets to eat. That is a pet peeve of mine lol

Ladybug2001 11-04-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey02 (Post 1744389)
Yeah I agree and you better start showing him whos boss fast, before it worsens. If slapping him isn't working then try something else like backing him up and working his feet, fast. Or using a whip and cracking it. I do not tolerate digging in the bucket (wheel barrow full of food ect) while I am holding it AT ALL. My horse waits until I have the food where I want it before he gets to eat. That is a pet peeve of mine lol

Trust me, dislike it just as anyone would. He has that part down, he knows if he doesn't leave me be he doesn't get his food until he stands away from his feed bucket and waits. He gets that one. He just is too dense to understand that when he nips at me he gets smacked. My 8 month old colt is starting to bite as well and he has never bit before now. So he is getting straightened out as well, but he gets it. The older one doesn't.

Janna 11-04-2012 08:46 PM

Sounds spoiled. I suggest ground work. My premie tried to be like that but I broke him of it real quick. He was over used to people and was dog like.

So I'd push him around. I got a lungewhip and put him in the round pen and got him moving. Changing directions. Until he was being more respectful. If he got in my space he got pushed away and worked more. And didn't hesitate to late the whip across his ass if he didn't move when I told him to.

Move his feet. Carry a hoof pick if you're not in a way to lunge and if he gets on your space poke him with it hard till he backs off.

Gunna have to get bitchy with him .

Casey02 11-04-2012 08:48 PM

I don't think he is to dense to realize that he gets hit after he bits, I think he doesn't care. Smack harder or use a whip ect to get him thinking twice about nipping

Janna 11-04-2012 08:49 PM

As far as biting. Don't hit him. Itl be a game .
I'd grab my colts lip and twist till he backed up then let go every time he offered to.
Or, more work. Send him away to work every time. There's been a few colts that got over the phase just by me pushing there nose away and ignoring it .

Saddlebag 11-04-2012 09:38 PM

Biting is what young male horses do and you are encouraging this behaviour with treats. I'm not going to tell you no treats but you need to educate him in what's acceptable behaviour and what isn't. I hold a treat with my fingers downward. If he approaches aggressively bump his mouth with the back of your hand. It will surprise him and he'll at least pause before he tries again. Bump him harder if you have to. You also need to work on his standing still before he gets a treat. Use the reward to your advantage. Tell him whoa and offer it only when he's stock still. Offer the treat with your arm outstretched to the side so he has to turn his head away from your body. He smells the treats long before you offer them. A bump on the lips is far more effective than a slap on the mouth because it smucks his lips agains this teeth so little force is all that's needed.

AmazinCaucasian 11-04-2012 10:16 PM

hand feed him sum jalapenos

Mochachino 11-04-2012 10:20 PM

Big lip twist and hard and hold it, with some loud voice.


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