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horsecrazygirl13 11-08-2012 03:22 PM

lungeing a horse loose in a roundpen
 
hi some of you suggested lungeing my friends horse loose in a round pen.
So how big should the roundpen be? is it possible for it to be too big?
what should i use? can i use a lunge whip? or does it have to be a lariat/lasso type rope?
And how do you do it? i have never lunged a horse loose in a roundpen.

SorrelHorse 11-08-2012 03:26 PM

I like a 50ft roundpen.

I'd just have a lunge whip. I'm not sure why you are doing this roundpen work, but it's just like lunging normally. Stand in the middle, send them off....

DrumRunner 11-08-2012 03:29 PM

I like to lunge mine this way.. I wouldn't do it with a horse that isn't very familiar with lunging. I've seen a few disasters that way. horse tries to get away, runs into panels, horse gets hurt.. It's no fun.

I have a 50ft round pen that is plenty big enough, but you don't have to have one that big. I'd go with at least 30ft. I find if I go any larger I end up getting more of a work out than the horse. I just take my horse into the round pen, take their halter and lead off, and let them go out.. I use a lead rope most of the time but I've used a lunge whip a good bit also.. Each of my horses are extremely good in the round pen because of this, if you do it a good bit it really works well and you can get good results with the horse.

SorrelHorse 11-08-2012 03:31 PM

Look up some episodes from Clinton Anderson, he almost always shows the roundpen work (especially with the recent episode with the mustang or with a young colt, or the horse in the fire)

www.downunderhorsemanship.tv

That's the way my horse's get roundpenned at least.

Spotted 11-08-2012 03:32 PM

40 to 60 feet.. Yes you can use a whip, lead line ect. You don't have to hit them with it, just use it as a tool to ask for the direction you want to go. There are many youtube videos you can watch. A horse reads your body language and does what you ask without saying a word.... I like Clinton Anderson and many other people, but can't think of them right now... Clinton has a tv show and the interenet. I have used some of his techniques and they have worked well for me. I normally with watch several training tips and choose for myself what I like best and what I think will work well

tinyliny 11-08-2012 04:04 PM

If you have never lunged in a round pen before, either ask an experienced person to show you or at the very least, watch some videos. There is a lot more to it than appears. It isnt just making them run in circles. It's about HOW they move and how connected they are to you. But to explain fully takes too much space and time. REad and watch and learn before you go banging about and chasing the hrose in circles.

horsecrazygirl13 11-08-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tinyliny (Post 1749897)
If you have never lunged in a round pen before, either ask an experienced person to show you or at the very least, watch some videos. There is a lot more to it than appears. It isnt just making them run in circles. It's about HOW they move and how connected they are to you. But to explain fully takes too much space and time. REad and watch and learn before you go banging about and chasing the hrose in circles.

Yes i understand, I dont want to make a mistake and do more unlearning.
Thanks!

nettybear 11-08-2012 06:27 PM

For a very different take on liberty lunging, check out Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling.
Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling
Many horses hate being lunged - for good reason. Klaus uses a square pen (Picadero) and his lunging technique and philosophy is aimed at creating a deep connection between your body language and the horses'. It's about your whole body, not just your leading hand and your whip hand. The horses naturally mirror your movement. As I refined my own (whole) body postures and movements, I was stunned that all 3 of my horses automatically understood the very new behaviours I was asking of them.

Most trainers stand in the middle and don't move from the spot. Parelli doesn't even turn with the horse. The Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling style of lunging has you moving in a small circle with the horse on the wider circle. I won't go into the detail here. Check him out on You Tube. The upshot is that when your create this total tuning in between your body and the horses, when you then ride, your horse continues to pay automatic attention to your shifts in weight etc. It's a big learning curve, but the most intensely satisfying way of working with my horses that I've ever known (in 38 years of having and loving horses).

toosexy4myspotz 11-08-2012 06:30 PM

If you lunge him in a loose pen and he freaks out squat down and don't move till he stops. don't try to run after him and catch him or dart out in front of him because if he gets spooked bad enough he will slide under a fence or get caught up in panels. it isn't pretty. the first few time i free lunge i still use my lunge line or 14' lead rope that way if they don't respond to my body language i have a back up plan. they should be taught body language before attempting a free lunge. some horses are calm and catch on quick but some freak out because they are confined and you have a whip. i prefer a rope.
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mbaron5731 11-12-2012 11:46 PM

Clinton Anderson. Check him out on youtube!

PLEASE, my forte is horsemanship.

I'll give you some key basics to really look into before lunging a horse.
Also How old is your horse, and what training experience am I working with?

1) When you begin lunging a horse I highly recommend getting a lunge line. If you are not sure what you are doing with the horse in an enclosed circle, you don't want to be with a horse that doesn't realize you don't know what to confidently do.

2) Body position while facing the horse. When the horse is standing with its whole left (or right) side flat in front of you, position yourself where your left hip is parallel with the horses front shoulder. Use that leg to pivot on. Keep your hip (closest to the horses back hip) just a slight bit facing their barrel more.
i.e. http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...09TOTCmtjLej3F

3) Now, if you use a lunge whip- do not mistake "go" with "*Crrraaccckkkk!*"
4) Use your verbal commands first. If the horse does not respond, wave your arm closest to their behind, and give a stern command. If that doesn't work, use voice and arm signal. Now, with your lunge whip in hand, tapping the horse on their butt while saying command is acceptable.
5) Always begin with contact. Don't let the horse be so far away from you that they drag you wherever.
6) Don't let the horse be so close to you that if they get confused.... well- bad things can begin.

Now, after you get the basic Proper* way to begin a lunge session, now you can ask your horse to walk, trot, and eventually canter.
Lunging should be about horse-human communication. NOT lunge the horse till all his energy is out!

I recommend watching videos such as these to help you progress:
(Hope my advice helps, msg me if you need :])



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