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spirit88 11-12-2012 03:50 PM

Ground frozen and my gelding is lame on hind hoofs.
My 9 year old gelding is lame on his back hoofs was fine yesterday now lame today.We got alot of rain saturday and last night it froze hard so corral is now frozen mud and lumpy.

He has shoes on all four feet fronts have pads and shoes backs are just shoes. Had a lot of issues with stone bruising so thats the reason for pads on the fronts.

Doesnt have heat in his hoofs legs arent stocked up but hes about a 6 on a scale of 1 to 10. Have a call into the farrier waiting for a call back. Last time he was riden was november 2nd. Deer hunting started on the 3rd and goes for 3 weeks.

So cant be work related has no cuts or swelling i can find the horse hes with is fine. Anyone else having problems since the ground has frozen up?

Thanks for any and all help.

spirit88 11-13-2012 11:40 AM

Update he can hardly walk this morning looks like he stayed next to hay feeder all night lots of poop around him. Legs are now stockedup but no heat got him to walk over to water tank. From how much water he sucked down id guess he hadnt had a drink for a while. Took temp its normal hes eating and drinking i have the farrier coming at noon today so i"ll see what he thinks. I also put a call into vet the one i had before retired so not sure how good new one is. Hes not wanting to move at all just wants to stay put near hay feeder.Really dont know whats up because hes eating drinking and not acting sick. Just dead lame on both hind legs.

Elana 11-13-2012 12:46 PM

While this is atypical, could he have foundered behind? Is he standing with his front feet way under himself to take weight off the rears? Does he have a racing pulse in the artery that feeds the foot?

poppy1356 11-13-2012 01:08 PM

My first thought is hips. You must be in the midwest? It was 70 at midnight on Saturday and it rained all night friday and all day saturday by 9 am Sunday it was in the 30s by Sunday night it was in the 20s. Our ground is all frozen lumpy mud and I am worried about my girl running about in that and twisting something.

I would get a vet out. With the ground the way it is, it is so easy for them to seriously hurt themselves.

spirit88 11-13-2012 03:38 PM

Farrier just left yes there was a pounding pulse in both hind legs farrier thinks for some reason he foundering. Was very reactive to hoof testers. Have vet coming to take Xrays later today as she was booked with calls. Farrier helped me get him into the barn where he is bedded deeply in shaving. Has his hay and water close together so has to do little walking. He also pulled his shoes off while he was here. Farrier also thought he could have abcesses brewing also that would be better then founder.Will know more after vet comes and does Xray on him will update then for now all i can do is wait.

Royal Pine Buck 11-13-2012 03:43 PM

if he has just shoes behind and shoes AND pads on the fronts, the issue could just be the hard frozen rutted ground. that stuff if heck to walk on for ME let alone a thin soled horse that is prone to bruising. even if he is normally fine on the hinds in normal conditions that frozen ground especially if rutted is sharp!

Hope all is well and it is only hood bruising and no foundering!

poppy1356 11-13-2012 03:44 PM

Do they normally stock up with foundering? What is this horse fed?

Elana 11-13-2012 03:52 PM

There are typically two reasons a horse will not move much as the OP described. One is founder.. and everything she said pointed to that being the issue. The other is Tying Up.

The description was a bi-lateral problem (horse did not want to move either hind foot) so it is unlikely a stone bruise on one foot, and with shoes on behind the hard lumpy ground should not be as much of a factor or so much of a factor that the horse won't move. A bi-lateral issue points to founder or tying up or a very very severe back problem.

With the pounding pulse in the hind fetlock.. I would guess it is founder.

I wish you all the luck on this. Please keep us updated when the vet comes out. I hope it is NOT founder but I suspect it is.

jaydee 11-13-2012 03:53 PM

Abcesses arent that common in shod horses especially if they have pads on but anything is possible where horses are concerned.
If he's been standing in one place for a long time then that could cause the legs to stock up due to poor circulation
Chills can cause founder/laminitis and can aggravate an existing pre-disposition or case thats been slight enough to go unnoticed. Keeping his legs warm with wraps would help as this will promote circulation. He needs to be stabled on a deep bed of shavings, your vet can blood test to rule out any blood sugar/insulin abnormalities.

spirit88 11-13-2012 03:55 PM

I have no clue if stockingup is part of foundering. All he gets for feed is hay thats grass and timothy mix. And a 1/2 pound of oats once a day. Farrier thought the stockingup was do to him not moving much. Farrier didnt see bruising so i dont know what to think guess if it just happened it might not be visable yet.

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