I almost feel kinda stupid asking another question xD! Anyway.....
Gelding I am training, needs more saddle time to fix saddle problems. But, I wanted to try a little round penning with him to get him to think about things a little more instead of just react and react badly to them.
The thing is. First day he got here I approached him the wrong way. Tried to shut him up in a make shift round pen I made and try to get his feet moving a little. So maybe I could get him calm enough I could get the halter on him. He was doing pretty well, I wasn't making much movement just sending him around quietly, when his brain shut off and with in 5 seconds he busted down the fence and ran up the road. MY FAULT ENTIRELY! Should not have approached him that way at all.
But now, he knows how to lounge on the lead line and listens really well. I'm actually receiving panels this Saturday, 16 foot long and five foot high panels. This pen will be sturdy enough he can not get through. But, on the day we had our accident he took off and we went to go catch him. Anytime we'd even get 15 foot near him he'd act like he'd want to go through the fencing we had him kinda catercorner up against.
I'm not sure exactly what to do. I need to ride him in the round pen because its safer for not only me but him as well. Because he doesn't have much room to take off at a bolt and go running down the road.
I would suggest getting wood walls or putting wood on the panels. Deter the horse from jumping. They'll see solid instead of something they could possible jump. Plus, they won't get their leg hung up in the wood. Ever seen a horse break its leg in a panel? I have, it's not pretty.
That's my round pen. There's not a lot a horse can do to hurt itself in there unless it's completely insane.
Also, how do you roundpen? I used the Clinton Anderson method most of the time. You can find him at www.downunderhorsemanship.tv
Firstly, super kudos for recognising that it was your behaviour that caused his!:thumbsup: Sounds like he can't take much pressure at all & I imagine what you thought of as 'calm' before he broke out, was actually a mental 'shut down' because he was under too much pressure(for him - not saying you were being heavy handed or such). That he was in a small enclosure would have made everything more confrontational & I'd personally get a strong relationship/understanding on the way in a larger area where he doesn't feel trapped first - say a half sized arena.
Watching him for his subtlest signs and 'turning off' before he feels the need is the way I'd approach it - baby steps. By the sound of things, you have some way to go before considering riding him.
Even with the wood, I'd be careful with him for a while. I know of a horse who tried to jump out of a roundyard that was partially concrete lined with rubber. He hung himself up and ended up with a nice big hernia. You can't really blame him though, it was his first time in the roundyard since he was in there to get his 'snip snip'...
I don't know how you could use it on panels, but there is a roundyard in town made of old car tyres. The horse can run into them and there is enough give that they can't hurt themselves too badly.
I have seen many horses clear or crash through 6 foot panels. A five foot round en is not very 'horse-proof'. Rodeo type panels (like those made by WW are 6 foot tall and a 10 foot panel weighs 120#. Anything less, a motivated horse can crash through or climb out of. Unfortunately, once they have learned that they can go through or over fences, it is soundly entrenched in their minds. Reinforcing with an electric wire (only 'hot' when the horse is not mounted) is about the only way I know of teaching one to respect fences again.
I consider round-penning a loose horse to be a very poor way to settle one down. I want a line on one and I want frequent stops and direction changes and not 'wearing one out' or waiting on one to settle down for any part of my program. If I do not have the time or inclination to work one on a line until it settles down, I would much rather just take it away from the working area and other horses, tie it up and 'let' it figure out it should just drop its head and cock a hind foot. It will stayed tied up until it does.
Just my experience with green, reactive or obnoxious horses.
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