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Enfocore 11-27-2012 04:42 PM

Horse won't walk on! HELP!
When I walk my horse around the ring he will stop every now and then and will not walk forward without a lot of asking. He sometimes throws his head up like he is going to rear, he also hops up sometimes. When i take him on trails and he stops, he will not go forward for anything!! I carry a crop with my but when i use it he just flicks his tail and trys to turn to the barn and when i try to turn him he does the rearing type thing again, he does those EVERYDAY. I am not sure how to get him to go forward willingly. I know he is barn sour in and out of the ring i just don't know how to fix it. So any advice would be great! Thanks for reading.
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SorrelHorse 11-27-2012 04:44 PM

If this happens everywhere I would put money the horse is hurting or sore somewhere. Check his teeth, saddle fit especially, etc. Then come back and I'll offer some training advice instead. ^^

Kayty 11-27-2012 06:05 PM

^^ as above. Check your saddle, bridle, bit, and get him looked over thoroughly by a physio and/or vet, and have his teeth assessed by a qualified dentist.

If it's not pain/discomfort - he's well and truely got the wool over your eyes.
If he were my horse, I would take out my dressage whip, ride him normally, and as soon as he goes to stop, ask nicely once with my leg, then give him a couple of good cracks over the backside to make him think twice about not taking you seriously.

Yes, sounds 'mean'. But, I would sure as hell rather have a horse that knows that I would take any of it's rubbish, and then happily works for and with me, rather than one who is constantly trying to take the lead because I haven't been a good enough leader.

Enfocore 11-27-2012 06:05 PM

He has high withers and his saddle fits forward, but i have a thicker pad that i use and it sits good with that, were he is 4 would he be getting new teeth or anything? He is just getting started with his training so he is very green ..
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Enfocore 11-27-2012 06:07 PM

Thank you both for your reply
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Kayty 11-27-2012 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Enfocore (Post 1774876)
He has high withers and his saddle fits forward, but i have a thicker pad that i use and it sits good with that, were he is 4 would he be getting new teeth or anything? He is just getting started with his training so he is very green ..
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Get your saddle fitted, yesterday!! A thick pad does NOT compensate for an ill fitting saddle, if it is pressure down on his wither, that is a very good excuse for him to not go forward.
Think of it this way - you have a pair of new shoes on that are a size too small. You're walking around and they're giving you blisters. Would you put a pair of thick socks on to compensate? No, you wouldn't because the socks will make the shoes even tighter. Same deal with a saddle.

At 4, yes he could have teeth coming through - get them checked! He should be having a check up every 6 months until he is 6-7 years old at least. My Dressage horse has just turned 11, and gets his teeth done every 6 months. If I expect him to carry a bit, then I want to make sure that his teeth are in good shape.

Enfocore 11-27-2012 06:21 PM

Were i live there is no were to get a saddle checked for fit. Also we don't have a lot of money to go out and get a new saddle. But were you said it can hurt him i could sell my saddle to get one that fits. Do ou happen to know of any western saddles that would be a good fit for a high withered slim horse? Just to get an idea of were to start looking? I have traded my saddle before but what i traded for was way to big so i had to keep this one.
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Kayty 11-27-2012 06:24 PM

I am a Dressage rider, so not at all family with western saddles.
You could try putting up a thread in the Tack and Equipment subform with your question about potential saddles.
But if the current saddle is pressing down on his wither, it's going to be causing a lot of discomfort, eventually pain and if left long enough, permanent damage to his back.

Enfocore 11-27-2012 06:31 PM

Thank you very much for your help, i will post the thread now. I have an english saddle as well but i am unsure as how it should fit so i don't ride in it. What should an english fit like?
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Kayty 11-27-2012 06:52 PM

Do you know what type of English saddle it is?
In general, you want to saddle to sit well behind the shoulders to not restrict the movement.
You should be able to see daylight through the gullet, by looking from the back and front of the saddle. You don't want it sitting too narrowly against the spine, so a few cm's either side of the spine is what you're aiming for.
The saddle should be well clear of the wither, and not 'pinch' the wither by sitting too narrow against it.
You don't want the saddle to sit any further back than the horse's last rib, as this starts to get to the sensitive and weak area of the horse's back.
This all needs to apply when you are in the saddle as well as out!

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