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TexasBlaze 11-29-2012 11:26 PM

Coming two year old critic
 
http://i48.tinypic.com/2hwo5js.jpg

This is a shot of my Reg pinto gelding. He's 21 months old. I just want to see if everyone else is seeing what im seeing in his confo. And i want to see if there is anything i missed. Also i want to make sure he's going to be sound for riding in the future. I personally think he'll be mature enough for light riding at 2 1/2 years. He seems like a mature guy for his age.

caljane 12-01-2012 03:17 PM

I am by no means a conformation expert, but since nobody replied I thought I give your request a boost - and my unprofessional opinion :-)
First: I love pintos and he has a very nice eye, great color, and decent build - so I would take him home in a heart beat.
Then there are very few horses without conformational flaws, and your guy is still growing and the picture is a bit awkward. That his butt is higher than his withers will most likely grow out. His front pastern looks a bit too long and soft (could be the angle of the picture). His neck seems to be a bit short and tied in a tad low and the head a bit too big to make an overall smooth picture. But there is nothing about him that suggests that he would not be sound for riding. I love his short back and he has very good withers.

Breezy2011 12-01-2012 03:22 PM

He seems to have a good big hip. This is my coming 2 year old filly

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...15551468_n.jpg

blue eyed pony 12-01-2012 03:59 PM

I'm not sure what Breezy is seeing, because I'm seeing a horse with a woefully inadequate hip, although at this stage of his development that may improve.

His neck does tie in oddly, and those front pasterns are a bit scary. He is downhill at this point in time [may grow out of it] and has a very upright shoulder that has a very closed angle. Based on his shoulder angle he might be a choppy ride though the long and over-sloped pasterns may smooth that out a little [yes the pasterns ARE a fault because they will be weaker than a more ideal leg, but he will be a little more comfortable to ride].

He is less mature than my mother's coming 2yo [23 months] and less mature even than Satin was at 20 months on the dot, so I wouldn't call him super-mature for a coming 2yo [though Satin is quite a "mature" coming 2yo]. He's about average to me, maybe even a little immature. My 2yo rather immature TB was around that mature physically when she was his age.

However, that doesn't mean to say you can't start him when you want to... as long as you keep the work load light. I know someone who will ride a 2yo 2x/week very lightly at walk/trot for 5-10 minutes at a time, and by the time they turn 3 that time frame goes up to 20-30 minutes and another ridden session is added to the week. Then when they turn 4 they get ridden 4x/week, and when they turn 5 they come into full work [6 days a week for an hour a day with one jumping session every week].

I think your little guy will make a lovely pleasure/trail horse and maybe a low-level allrounder. If his pasterns were better he could hold up to quite a heavy workload but I don't think he's for high-impact sports like jumping, barrels/gaming, cutting, reining etc.

TexasBlaze 12-01-2012 04:22 PM

Thanks guys! My thought is trail horse/kids lesson horse. He is a QH/Saddlebred cross which is a BIT strange but his mother and father are both trail horse extraordinaires. And he IS reg. through the pinto association.

I highly agree with his thick awkward neck and big head. Im hoping he might grow into his head a little more. Thats mainly what i saw when i looked. Didnt see all the leg things but im not great with lengths and angles but i can spot defects.

Breezy your gonna be suprised but his half sister looks just like your two year old! Not physically but same markings and color.
http://i50.tinypic.com/1255qo1.jpg

I definitally will not go over his mentality with his workload. Ill be moving an hour away in January and will be coming home on the weekends and will probably do 30 minute short slow trail rides with him. That and working on moving his body independantly.

blue eyed pony 12-01-2012 04:56 PM

I figure he's hugely better than this:
http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?...0549&private=0

...which makes him a good horse :)

bit hard to be WORSE than the poor thing I posted above haha

TexasBlaze 12-01-2012 05:07 PM

I couldnt see the pic BEP =( I figure his attitude makes up for it. He's the picture of a kids horse in personality. My seven year old neice can do ANYTHING with him. And he takes everything in stride and LOVES being douted on. Good kids horses are worth their weight in gold though i never plan on selling him. He will probably be the horse my kids ride. I had him bred because at the time i didnt HAVE a horse and i wanted to raise one (LOTS of experience). The stallion owner LOVES him because of his attitude. She says she's probably prouder than him than she is his show foals because of how well behaved he is.

Endiku 12-01-2012 05:12 PM

We have a QH/Saddlebred gelding! He's seven and a wonderful rodeo/allaround/ranch horse. He has huge strides and a butter-smooth trot and canter. I love it :)

Does your boy gait at all?

I tend to agree that he's about average for his age, but not terrible looking at all. I do see the faults that Blue Eyed pointed out, but he may develope a better hip as he grows. I'd definitely watch his pastern though. They're not extremely long like our TB colt's, but definitely much more angled than they should be. I'm wondering if some of that might be corrected with differend hoof trimming though?

I wouldn't worry about his butt-high stature or scrawny neck at this stage, I rarely see a 2 year old without a scrawny neck and once you have him under saddle as a three or four year old you can condition his top line and make a real nice trail horse out of him!

TexasBlaze 12-01-2012 05:16 PM

Id rather not mess with his feet. My farrier is AMAZING.

Ill watch his legs and make sure he stays sound. Even if he doesnt he will have a forever home with me.

He doesnt gait but he has some HUGE gaits that are very floaty from what i can tell.

Endiku 12-01-2012 05:27 PM

Thats fine, just something to think about :) his feet don't look bad, but his hoof angle doesnt quite match his pastern angle so I thought that might be putting extra stress on his pastern/tendons.

So does our QHxSB! No gaiting but giant strides that eat up the ground. Plus he has that natural round carriage and high set tail which is quite beautiful when he's trotting.

this is the only motion picture of him trotting that I have xD
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/...ckskiing20.jpg


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