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InsaneDino 12-05-2012 10:46 PM

Are these bits reallllyy that bad?
 
I've heard mostly bad stuff about single jointed full cheek snaffles. Everybody says that they have a nutcracker action that hurts the horse. It's not clear with light cues. Horses like to brace against it. It's not good for lateral flexion. Blah blah blah.

People say that the full cheek shouldn't be used because it can get caught on things. They are only for starting young or fresh horses. You shouldn't jump in one (I never understood why they say that...) etc.

My mare seems to go well in her's. It's the first and only bit she's ever had in her mouth, so I can't compare it to anything as far as if she behaves better or worse with it. She seems to be pretty soft in her mouth cues. She bends nicely with it. She tucks her head and does a slower, beginner reining spin nicely. I've never noticed a time when she braces against the bit. She doesn't toss her head from it. The few times I have jumped her in it, she seems fine. Granted, I always give waaay too much rein, so she probably didn't feel any contact.

Is there anything I should know? Do some horses prefer single jointed to double jointed snaffles? Full cheeks to d-rings?
I am training her in eventing. Is there a preferred type of bit for the three phases?

Muppetgirl 12-05-2012 10:48 PM

Geez.....don't know where I've been, but I've only heard positive things......perhaps I've missed something......subbing

nikelodeon79 12-05-2012 10:51 PM

I've heard most of that said about tom thumbs, not full cheeks.
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InsaneDino 12-05-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl (Post 1786640)
Geez.....don't know where I've been, but I've only heard positive things......perhaps I've missed something......subbing

That's what I was told from another boarder at my barn. She's the one that suggested it to me! It's nice since greenies can't pull the bit through their mouths.
However, I only rode in and saw snaffles at every english barn I've been to. I don't get it either! :/

InsaneDino 12-05-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79 (Post 1786645)
I've heard most of that said about tom thumbs, not full cheeks.
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All I've heard about tom thumbs is don't get one unless you want the horse police after you. Hah!

I'll have to find some old threads about the full cheeks and single jointed snaffles.

Muppetgirl 12-05-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneDino (Post 1786647)
That's what I was told from another boarder at my barn. She's the one that suggested it to me! It's nice since greenies can't pull the bit through their mouths.
However, I only rode in and saw snaffles at every english barn I've been to. I don't get it either! :/

What bit does the boarder at the barn use by chance??

LisaG 12-05-2012 10:56 PM

I'm not a real bit expert, but if your horse seems to be doing fine in it, then I think it's okay. You could always experiment with other bits, if you wanted.

I use a full cheek snaffle a lot, though lately I've been liking the D-ring snaffle, too. D-ring pinches their lips a little more, according to the woman who sold it to me.

If the same person tells you a bit is only good for starting a horse, but also hard on the horse's mouth, I wouldn't trust that person's opinion.

Tianimalz 12-05-2012 10:57 PM

Oh crap!! I'm in trouble then!

QUICK INDIE! get that out of your mouth!

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InsaneDino 12-05-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl (Post 1786651)
What bit does the boarder at the barn use by chance??

She uses a curb bit of some sort- she rides western.
I'm guessing it has a single joint... but I won't swear by it.

InsaneDino 12-05-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LisaG (Post 1786656)
I'm not a real bit expert, but if your horse seems to be doing fine in it, then I think it's okay. You could always experiment with other bits, if you wanted.

I use a full cheek snaffle a lot, though lately I've been liking the D-ring snaffle, too. D-ring pinches their lips a little more, according to the woman who sold it to me.

If the same person tells you a bit is only good for starting a horse, but also hard on the horse's mouth, I wouldn't trust that person's opinion.

Is there a reason why you prefer the d-ring?

It wasn't the same person who told me to start her in it as where I've heard the bad stuff from. The bad stuff all came from the internet. Dang internet for worrying me so much.


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