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kitten_Val 09-12-2008 06:51 AM

Keep horse moving (at least on trot)...
 
I know this question was raised number of times... I didn't run into this issue that much, but lately my qh doesn't want to move in ring almost at all. Yesterday while taking a lesson I ended up kicking her pretty hard to keep her moving (she was falling to walk all the time). OK, NOT all the time, I did it just couple times in one hour other than that I'm just squeezing, but I know it's not good to keep horse forward this way. Should I use a whip to make her trot? I really hate doing that but it looks like only option... :( Any other suggestions?

Spyder 09-12-2008 07:33 AM

All you will end up doing by constantly kicking is to desensitize your horse to the point that even the slightest kick will eventually be ignored.

Sometimes one good lesson with the whip is a good thing.

ChestnutEventer 09-12-2008 07:35 AM

yes, try a whip, or spurs (but dont ride to much in these)

i have the same problem. ask one (with a push of your leg) ask again, (kick this time) ask a third time, (use the whip behind your leg)
this is not a case of animal cruelty. its called making a horse work, and listen to their rider. if you just went around with a little nudge the whole time, yes your horse will think it can do what ever it wants. :D
let her travel around at a nice forward canter, or trot, get off her back, in a jumping postition (2 point position) and then bring her back to a slow pace, then make her go faster again. repeat a few times, then back to a walk on a loose rein.

good luck. im sure other people have other suggestions. But that is what i have been doing with my QH, he has no impulsion what so ever, and hates dressage. :wink:

claireauriga 09-12-2008 07:53 AM

My instructors always use lots of transitions to help build up impulsion, and I have to make sure that I always keep my leg on when I'm riding, even if I'm not squeezing. Yesterday I got to ride a really good horse (the stable owner used to showjump with him) and I really felt the difference when he started listening to me. You should feel a response the moment you give an aid, even a squeeze, and if you don't, step up to the harder aid immediately. All lesson yesterday I was told I wasn't being firm enough - but I hadn't ridden in two weeks, so I was tired and my muscles just weren't going xD That's my excuse, anyway, and I'm sticking to it.

Try doing lots of transitions at unexpected points, progressive and direct, and be really firm with each one. Also try riding more interesting things - don't just do circles at each end and go large round the arena. Come down on the three-quarter lines, do figure-eights and serpentines, and circle from B and E. Keep up the transition work all the way through and reward your horse for good transitions. I always find that after I've done that for a bit the horse becomes much more responsive all-round.

kitten_Val 09-12-2008 10:19 AM

Thank you all!

I'm not gonna use spurs. I never did and don't feel like learning it on my own horse. :wink: I also try to make her entertained as much as possible with figure 8, changes and all. She just seems to hate the ring... :) Well, I think I'll try to use whip a little to see whether it'll bring her back to work.

SonnyWimps 09-12-2008 05:30 PM

are you always working her in the ring? If yes, then ride her in a pasture, let her get out of the arena for a bit. Take her on a trail ride or just take her out to be groomed, and put her back in her pasture/stall.

PoptartShop 09-12-2008 05:49 PM

I'd try squeezing more, & before you bring out the spurs & such, you could try a crop as a training aid to get her moving a little bit, with some light taps.

FutureVetGirl 09-12-2008 05:54 PM

Haha... Sonny... that wouldn't work for ME at all. The horse I ride is almost NEVER in the ring, but always outside. On the track, but it's the biggest "outdoor" thing that we have. There are no fences on it, and pretty much it's a giant pasture. And still... he's as slow as a snail when it comes to stuff... unless we're heading towards the barn (and then I have to hold him back).

But what's funny... is that the horse I ride isn't a gelding... but a stallion. A young (7 or 8) ex-racing stallion that is extremely healthy. You'd think he'd be feistier... :P

kitten_Val 09-12-2008 10:42 PM

Sonny, I do both - trails and ring work. Ring work only if I'm running late or taking a lesson. Unfortunately I have to trailer her to the trails, so working both - in ring and outside doesn't work for me. :wink: Well, may be I just stick with trails mostly... :roll:


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