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mrg8302 12-14-2012 02:55 PM

Mystery Lameness?
 
I am at my wit's end and also my wallet's end with this horse. Maybe you can help? Examined by 3 vets and 2 farriers and 1 chiropractor. Everyone agrees he seems "off". The last vet we saw wasnt convinced he was lame at all. We have x-rayed everything from foot to shoulder to hock to stifle and withers, nerve blocked both front feet, did neuro exam, chiro exam, pssm1 test was negative, negative to hoof testers on all 4 feet. But he does not move well. He prefers left lead and for weeks would not trot at all. He has just started trotting. He does not seem to be in pain and had no change when put on heavy bute for 3 days. Do you see anything obvious from these videos? This is almost 3 year old halter/performance bred paint that just started training about a month ago. This problem was obvious from the beginning. I've also had multiple farriers look at this feet. He had thin soles months ago but now is in shoes and does not show any foot sensitivity to the hoof testers. Flexion tests showed no change. I think I see something in his right front and hind left, but I cannot pinpoint it just as everyone else can't.

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http://s4.beta.photobucket.com/user/...FE5E3.mp4.html

http://s4.beta.photobucket.com/user/...5E49A.mp4.html

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mrg8302 12-14-2012 03:00 PM

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...105CACD07F.mp4

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...162FFB48B0.mp4

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...7E946FE5E3.mp4

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...7E4715E49A.mp4

spirit88 12-14-2012 03:55 PM

Yeah i see a hitch in the right hind also a bit off on right front but the hind is really off more then the front. Could be stifle problems kinda what it looks like. Oh hes really nice looking boy too.

~*~anebel~*~ 12-14-2012 04:12 PM

It would be nice to have a video of the horse trotting straight towards and straight away from the camera. As well as seeing how he moves (emphasis on toe dragging) sideways for a few steps.
Very likely a stifle injury, very unlikely it's at all curable. If the horse is even deemed pasture sound you will be lucky, but he will probably never make a riding horse, unfortunately.

The only diagnostics, really, that a vet needs for stifle, esp meniscus issues, is a flexion test, some palpation and asking the horse to move sideways in both direstions. Ultrasound and x-ray will show almost nothing until arthritis has begun to develop. Have any of these vets been lameness specialists?

Good luck!

mrg8302 12-14-2012 04:26 PM

Yes we drove 2 1/2 hours to a specialist. He did the flexion tests, all the x-rays etc. He also moved him straight and in a circle. He didn't think it was stifle.

walkinthewalk 12-14-2012 08:24 PM

He looks to me, as if he does not want to bring his back end along with his front end. It looks like he's doing all his work from the front and the back is tagging along, against its will:?

My Arab has been like that since I rescued him 19+ years ago. He had an injured vertebra. He never could be an adult rider's horse, so ended up being a lesson horse for children.

So perhaps something in the skeletal structure is being missed by everyone and that segways right into "kissing spine". Of which I know nothing about but I know it's easily missed and could that be a possibility?

If he's young enough, perhaps it's not to the point where riding him provokes bad behavior.

Kissing Spine

He either has an inherent anomaly that isn't being discovered, or he's been injured somewhere in his time that nobody was aware of and this is the result.

Being a Paint, I know there are certain genetic diseases they can inherit. I wonder if finding and joining a Paint Horse forum might get you anything??

I dunno, I am stabbing in the dark, since you have already done everything you can think of to figure this out.

And yes, he is absolutely gorgeous:D

Solon 12-14-2012 08:56 PM

I was in the same boat last fall! Couldn't figure it out. Then realized it was arthritis! Put my boy on CortaFlex which is a MIRACLE supplement - no more limping. I mean months and months of tears and frustration and craziness all gone within the five day loading phase of the supplement.

We thought it was a particularly bad abscess, shoulder pull, knee strain - just everything!! And someone at the barn said her horse came up with mystery lameness and they tried the supplement and things went the same - horse not limping!

Not sure this will be the case for you, but hey, worth the try!

Toucan 12-14-2012 09:28 PM

Just going through this now too.

We're thinking its arthritis in an old leg injury, hes toe dragging as well. I have MSM on the way in the mail & have been told that it too works within days & really works.

I guess I'll find out soon enough..
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Solon 12-14-2012 10:53 PM

I've used MSM constantly on Solon the last 12 years for his feet.

If that doesn't work, try the CortaFlex. I have yet to see a horse that it did not work on within the five days it says it will. Pretty cool stuff.

Toucan 12-14-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Solon (Post 1800098)
I've used MSM constantly on Solon the last 12 years for his feet.

If that doesn't work, try the CortaFlex. I have yet to see a horse that it did not work on within the five days it says it will. Pretty cool stuff.

I just looked into CortaFlex after you posted about it.
I'll give the MSM a go, but if I'm not seeing results i'll definitely give the CortaFlex a go, thanks for that.

My gelding is only 8, but arthritis can take hold after an injury.
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