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JustImagine 12-15-2012 09:35 PM

Old Coffin Bone Injury
 
My pony, Imagine, has been lame on his RH for the past 3 weeks. First we thought he was stiff, then last weekend my vet said it was an abcess in his foot so we treated it for the abcess. He wasn't improving much so the vet took some x-rays today and found that his coffin bone is shaped odd from an old injury and that's what's causing his lameness. He's not dead lame or anything, he just looks like he's stiff. My vet and trainer both said he'd have to have some kind of shoe on his foot (he's barefoot right now). I've had him for 8 months now and not a lick of lameness issues until now. He used to be really on his forehand and not using his hindquarters, so 3 months ago we started training to get him to use his hindquarters more; little did we know that he was on his forehand because his RH was hurting him. Does anyone know anything about coffin bone injuries? Am I going to have problems with him being lame now?

Phly 12-15-2012 09:55 PM

Ummm yep, "coffin"bone.
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JustImagine 12-15-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Phly (Post 1801227)
Ummm yep, "coffin"bone.
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What experience and knowledge do you have with coffin bone injuries? Because I have none and was asking people who do have knowledge about it. I find this comment rude and discouraging.

Phly 12-15-2012 10:16 PM

Rude or honest? Take it as you see fit. Can the horse still be ridden? Maybe. These things are impossible to interweb answer. But I doubt it'll ever be right. And more then likely be lame. Carrying weight and working will make it worse. Could it be fixed or passified? Maybe. But there is a limit to what most will spend. And the horse will then be special care. I make the coffin bone reference to the fact that is exactly what it is/ or used to be.
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JustImagine 12-15-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phly (Post 1801269)
Rude or honest? Take it as you see fit. Can the horse still be ridden? Maybe. These things are impossible to interweb answer. But I doubt it'll ever be right. And more then likely be lame. Carrying weight and working will make it worse. Could it be fixed or passified? Maybe. But there is a limit to what most will spend. And the horse will then be special care. I make the coffin bone reference to the fact that is exactly what it is/ or used to be.
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There was nothing honest about it, just a little comment =] I was just asking for information, not snyde comments. Thank you.

Phly 12-15-2012 10:24 PM

Hopefully you understand my comment now though? That is an injury that just won't go away. And one of the most detrimental to a horses soundness. Sorry If it sounds harsh. But it is a bad thing. Shoeing and corrective trimming may HELP but the horse is still crippled.
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Cherie 12-16-2012 09:35 AM

Can you be more specific about the coffin bone abnormality? There are things like 'pedal osteitis', old fractures -- lots of variations of coffin bone problems. Can you post the x-rays?

Many times the coffin bone can be stabilized by just putting on a bar shoe and clips that does not allow the hoof to expand on contact with the ground. The downside is that the hoof gradually contracts. I would probably try a regular shoe first.

I would also 'roll the toe' so the there is less leverage on the hoof as the horse breaks over on it. I would also settle for just pleasure riding until you see how much improvement the shoe makes.

You will need to shoe both hind feet (minus any bar if one is used) to get even and balanced movement. Other wise, you will get other soundness problems.

For what its worth, I also did not find other comments very helpful.

JustImagine 12-16-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 1801706)
Can you be more specific about the coffin bone abnormality? There are things like 'pedal osteitis', old fractures -- lots of variations of coffin bone problems. Can you post the x-rays?

Many times the coffin bone can be stabilized by just putting on a bar shoe and clips that does not allow the hoof to expand on contact with the ground. The downside is that the hoof gradually contracts. I would probably try a regular shoe first.

I would also 'roll the toe' so the there is less leverage on the hoof as the horse breaks over on it. I would also settle for just pleasure riding until you see how much improvement the shoe makes.

You will need to shoe both hind feet (minus any bar if one is used) to get even and balanced movement. Other wise, you will get other soundness problems.

For what its worth, I also did not find other comments very helpful.

I haven't seen the x-rays yet, my vet is showing me them tomorrow; all he told me is that the coffin bone is kind of odd shaped as a result from an old injury =[ I will post the x-rays once I get them, though!

We've only been doing walk-trot work with him for the past 3 months because he wasn't accepting the bit and was just too much on his forehand, so we started back at basics and have been making him use his hindquarters more. My trainer thinks this is what sparked his lameness because the whole reason he was more on his forehand to begin with was because if he put too much weight on his back legs it hurt him.
And he's not even close to be dead lame or anything; at first we only noticed it at the walk, he was just stabbing his leg slightly and very slightly hiking it a bit at the trot. He's been on stall rest for a week and there's already improvement. I'm just hoping the shoeing will work.

MHFoundation Quarters 12-16-2012 09:53 AM

We had a mare that fractured her coffin when I was a kid. I will get ahold of my mom later & get details. I do remember her being shod and she did regain soundness & stayed sound for quite a long time.
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JustImagine 12-16-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters (Post 1801714)
We had a mare that fractured her coffin when I was a kid. I will get ahold of my mom later & get details. I do remember her being shod and she did regain soundness & stayed sound for quite a long time.
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Thank you! That would be really helpful if you could =]


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