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alakennard 12-16-2012 03:53 PM

Conformation Critique of Potential Buys Please
 
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Here are two boys we are looking at purchasing together and just wanted to know what you all think of their conformation? I don't have great conformation shots but hopefully you can tell enough. Most of the tobiano's pictures were of him as a yearling I believe.

caljane 12-16-2012 06:00 PM

Hey there! Pretty, first of all: I am drooling over the Tobiano! It would be helpful if you could add what you intend to use these horses for, are they geldings or stallions, and what breed, if known?
I do not see any conformational flaws sticking out, the solid horse's neck is a bit short for it's thickness, and he doesn't seem to have very good withers. As of legs - the way he is standing that is hard to tell.
The tobiano (he is gorgeous!!!) may have an overbite, I would check his teeth. He may be a bit splay footed in the front, too - again, could be the way he was standing for the picture. It really depends on what you are wanting to do with them to know which parts should be "taken apart" more - which would be the job of somebody who knows more, I just look at a horse in the "is it well enough put together to fit my needs"-way. And "does it look pretty while doing it" ;-) When it comes to competition you want to be way more picky.

alakennard 12-16-2012 07:11 PM

The boys are stallions and registered APHA. We eventually want to breed the boys. I fell in love with them and have been thinking for weeks now. They are quite a drive from us so I thought I'd get some opinions here first. Some of the picture angles are distorting I believe and I know on the one photo he is not standing correctly which makes his back legs look strange. Any other critiques on their conformation? I'll be setting up a vet to check them out before we make the trip but hoping to pick them up next weekend 
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caljane 12-16-2012 07:36 PM

Now it would be interesting to know how old they are, especially the solid one. Honestly - he would be a no-go for breeding due to his unfortunate neck. IMHO there are no excuses for conformational flaws in a breeding stallion unless he is proven (competed and won) in the area you are looking for to breed for or has offspring that better him. For the Tobiano I would ask if you could get clear front and back picktures of his legs and a picture of his bite before you make a long trip.
I hope they work out for you! :-)

BBBCrone 12-16-2012 07:38 PM

I'll offer you my opinion.

Horse #1 ~ Very thick neck. No throat latch to speak of. Poor withers, bordering on mutton. Possibly camped under in the hind end.

Horse #2 ~ Appears very straight in the hind legs (posty), including the pasterns which are almost straight up and down. Long in the back, high neckset and weak in the croup.

If I had a mare I wanted to breed - I would not give either of these boys a second look. However they may make very fine geldings for trail riding, small shows, etc.

CLaPorte432 12-16-2012 07:40 PM

^^^ Agreed. Not breeding material due to too many conformation flaws.
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paintedpastures 12-16-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BBBCrone (Post 1802485)
I'll offer you my opinion.

Horse #1 ~ Very thick neck. No throat latch to speak of. Poor withers, bordering on mutton. Possibly camped under in the hind end.

Horse #2 ~ Appears very straight in the hind legs (posty), including the pasterns which are almost straight up and down. Long in the back, high neckset and weak in the croup.

If I had a mare I wanted to breed - I would not give either of these boys a second look. However they may make very fine geldings for trail riding, small shows, etc.

Good assessment,totally agree.:D

themacpack 12-16-2012 08:23 PM

Neither is breeding materiel - but would make lovely geldings. Beyond that, agree with the assessment given above about both.

alakennard 12-16-2012 08:35 PM

So do any of you think the photos (or the way the horse was set up) may be causing them look like they have conformational flaws? Do you think it still might be worth having a vet out to evaluate/examine them further? It's a lot better to be able to get hands on and have them stand on a level surface. Are the flaws just too severe to be mistakes of the photographer?
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CLaPorte432 12-16-2012 08:44 PM

Yes, there are too many flaws to be mistakes from the photographer. To an experienced eye, these 2 boys could be picked apart up and down.

If you are looking for a breeding stallion, pass and keep looking. The way this ecomony is, there is no reason to continue to breed less then the best. Im sure they'll make great geldings though.
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