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JustWingIt 12-17-2012 07:56 PM

What do you think about this saddle?
Hey all, I've been looking for a used western saddle to trail ride and just play around in and such for a while now. This one popped up in my local tack store for not too much, 400 bucks is pretty fair right?
Here it is, what do y'all think?

From the ad:
"Simco 15" Western Pleasure
Size: 15" Semi Quarter Horse Bars (Medium)
Color: Brown
Condition: Excellent
Price: $400.00"
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joseeandjade11 12-17-2012 10:45 PM

Wow, it's a very pretty saddle, I like how the seat is deep, that's how mine is and i love it so much ;) From the look of the picture, it also looks like it was well taken care of too

Phly 12-17-2012 10:52 PM

Looks like a nice saddle. I personally don't like the stirrups though. They just don't seem to match really. And I'd want it it to have back billets and bucking strap. My main concern would be that it doesn't look used much. I like worn saddle that show use. My first thought on a saddle that looks unused is it didn't fit right or sored the horse. Which isn't a bad thing necessarily if it is straight Nd does fit your horse.
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poppy1356 12-18-2012 09:04 AM

^^^^Back billets and bucking strap?? Are you talking about the back cinch? Anyways that isn't needed unless you want it.

I just bought a Simco barrel saddle two months ago. Very well used but it is so comfortable. Absolutely love it. The older Simco's hold up very well I've been told so not sure why the poster above would want to see an old saddle that is not in good condition. I'm guessing the owner just took good care of their tack.

But I paid only $300 for mine. $400 is a bit of a stretch but if you really love it then go for it.

JustWingIt 12-18-2012 11:30 AM

So I wouldn't the the back billets for it to just be a general trail saddle?

I may be able to get the price down, but it is sort of a hard thing to find in my area, so that may be contributing to the high price.

Is there any way to guess if it would fit my gelding without actually trying it on him? Does semi quarter horse bars (medium) mean that it is generally the same medium as an english saddle?

poppy1356 12-18-2012 01:29 PM

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Gullet measurement cannot be transferred from english to western. You need to take tracings, take measurements. There's a sticky in here to help you.

And no, the back cinch is to hold down the back of the saddle for say things like barrel racing, roping and such things like that where the back may come up. You can use one if you want but it isn't needed.

Below is my simco that I paid 300 for. Little bit more worn in but I love it.

peppersgirl 12-18-2012 01:33 PM

A back cinch is kinda personal preference... if you mostly trail ride on flat ground and arent going up and down a ton of hills there really is no need for a back cinch...

All of my western saddles (one cutting, two roping) have back cinches which stay on as I know I will misplace them if I remove them from the saddles:)

Looks like a nice saddle- but I dont know anything about simcos ($400 does seem kinda spendy- but I could be wrong) *might* be able to talk them into letting you take the saddle home to try it on your horse..I have been able to do this in the past, but I knew the tack store owner well.. and the saddle was paid for before it left the store, I just had the option of bringing it back (in the same condition OBVIOUSLY) for a refund if it didnt work out.

Phly 12-18-2012 07:10 PM

I didn't necessarily say it needed them, but I'm sure it had them new and would be tooled to match. Just would be nice to have them.
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AnrewPL 12-18-2012 07:34 PM

Back cinches also depend on the rigging position on the saddle; on that one it looks about to 7/8th which really doesn’t need a back cinch unless you are doing some pretty heavy duty roping (which I’m guessing the saddle isn’t designed for anyway). All my saddles are rigged and I still ride with a back cinch though it may be loose most of the time, but it’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. As for trail riding, if the saddle fits well even on rough and steep terrain you shouldn’t need a breast plate and a back cinch, but once again better to have them there just in case.
In terms of the saddle, the first thing I’d be asking is what is the tree made of? If it has any fibreglass, forget it, save your money and get a better saddle.

JustWingIt 12-18-2012 07:50 PM

^ is there any way to tell what the tree is made of without asking or looking it up? Not sure if the people selling it would know...

Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with a fiberglass tree?

And no, no heavy roping, just light trails :)
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