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KiwiRyder 09-15-2008 05:14 PM

When to spay?! Oh I am soooo confused please help
Ok I am sure this has been chatted to death but I would sort of like opinions that are related to my situation cause I have a few things that concern me with keeping her entire till she's older. I have a 5 month old pitty/am bull bitch, My vet seemed very keen to spay her at 5 months & I nearly went thru with it but after some research would prefer to keep her entire till older.

First of all in a perfect would I would like to keep her entire till 18 months, the reason for this is not to hinder her growing etc I am NOT planning on breeding my dog at all. But I do have some factors that concern me with keeping her entire till then as there is an entire german shepherd mix dog on the farm he is normally tied up most of the day & off when they are away, but in saying that when my dogs are off they can get to where he is tied up. She is actually scared of him & I like this so I haven't introduced them. And sometimes on the weekends they do see each other, but when she is older I would just put her away.

As far as I am aware correct me if I am wrong, I am fairly safe in her not menstrating till she is 8 months or so. So I am assuming I can safely leave her spaying till about then at the very least. But any ho enough of my rambling please tell me what you think of the situation & how long I can safely leave her & what would you recommend. I am confused & just want to right by my dog & her growing etc

Vidaloco 09-15-2008 07:01 PM

I bred my Scottie for several years then got her fixed after 4 litters of pups. I kept one female puppy and got her fixed as early as physically possble. The main reason is because female dogs in season are a mess. You have to keep them in puppy pantys if you want to let them in the house. You also run the risk of an accidental breeding. Its easy to say 'oh I won't let her get bred' but thats why they are called accidents. Getting it done sooner rather than later is the wiser choice if you don't plan to breed the dog. Its so much easier on them the younger you can get it done. Call your vet and let him/her be your guide as to when the soonest you can get it done.

farmpony84 09-15-2008 08:03 PM

I don't know if females are different then males but I was told my male could be neutered at 4 months. i waited a year and they acted like he was old...

3neighs 09-15-2008 09:12 PM

I agree with Vida, sooner rather than later. I have two poodle mixes and the female was done at 5 months and the male done at 4 months. I, personally, don't believe there's any logical reason to wait.

slightly crazy 09-15-2008 09:50 PM

I was told by my vet that it's better to spay them before they go into heat for the first time

KiwiRyder 09-15-2008 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by 3neighs
I, personally, don't believe there's any logical reason to wait.

umm.. try when a female is spayed to early you can run the risk of post spaying leakage, under development of their bits etc Can also effect their general growth as well

3neighs 09-15-2008 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by KiwiRyder

umm.. try when a female is spayed to early you can run the risk of post spaying leakage, under development of their bits etc Can also effect their general growth as well

Then I guess you answered your own question...

Cat 09-15-2008 10:48 PM

Kiwi, they can go into heat as early as 5 months (average is 8 months - but there are individuals that start younger). They can also get pyometra as soon as they start going into heats and are not bred. If she gets pyo - especially closed pyo - you may not realize there is a problem until it is too late and she can die. Also, the older they are when the surgery is done, that harder it is on the animal due to the increased blood-flow in those areas. It makes for a higher-risk surgery.

I'm not sure what you are talking about "post spay leakage" or "underdevelopment of their bits" - all female bits that would be effect would be removed. General growth really isn't effect all that much on females. On males it can create a taller but not as filled out dog due the decreased tetosterone. However, that doesn't effect their health, just the look a bit - and it is very minimal.

Many of the reasons to wait on spaying/neutering out there are only half truths or full out myths. And the few that are true don't out-weigh the advantages of spaying before maturity. Follow your vet's advice - they are the experts.

Vidaloco 09-16-2008 01:46 PM

Cats right, I think a lot of the information out there is old or just myth. I know when I first started having dogs (1970's) the vets wanted the dog to have one cycle or even a litter of pups before the altering :shock: Modern thought is definitly the sooner the better. I know out of my 2 females, the one that got spayed as a puppy seems much healthier than my momma dog who got fixed after 4 litters.

farmpony84 09-16-2008 02:10 PM

I am picking my collie up tonight! He now barks a higher tune! I waited until he was a year because one of the "myths" is that when you neuter a dog too young there is an issue w/ the growth hormones, testosterone tells them when to stop growing or something to that effect. Some vets will say it's a myth and some will tell you it's a possible issue.

My brother has a German Shepard that was neutered at 4 months. He's 3 years old and still growing at a very slow rate now. He's had both knees replaced at this point and the specialists THINK it's becuase he was neutered at such a young age... I don't know... I say it's becuase he's a speilburg reject....

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