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Sadie00994 12-30-2012 06:32 PM

Taming a 23 yr old TB
 
I have a 23 year old thoroughbred who was, in her prime, one hell of a racehorse. (Knockgraffen) She has had a bad go of it since her racing days (a drug addict owner followed by an abusive owner) before I got her. I got her as a rescue in pretty bad shape. She is a very large, very powerful girl. Although she is a sweetheart I am having trouble keeping her under control. All she wants to do is run. I like to ride loose rein and relaxed. I certainly cannot do that with this girl. Any tricks anyone may know? Any bit I should try? Her last owner rode her western and he ran her into the ground every chance he got but I don't want to let her do that considering her age. My aching fingers and sore legs need help! lol

boots 12-30-2012 06:59 PM

What type of bit are you using.

I know we all wish every horse would be a peach in a snaffle, but occasionally you have to step it up a little to teach that whoa means whoa. I've found that with some that had a dicey background like yours may have had, that I have to teach "backwards," in a way.

After I develop a decent stop with a pelham (with two sets of reins), or some other bit with curb action, I can often reduce the potential severity of the bit and go to something with less or no leverage.

You need to be safe, of course, or you will be of no good to this mare. And, the mare will find working less stressful when she learns to respond better to what you need her to do.

Saddlebag 12-30-2012 09:03 PM

"I have a 23 year old thoroughbred who was, in her prime, one hell of a racehorse'
Your style of riding is in direct conflict with what was drilled into her head - to run. Did you see her being abused? Or is this just a story you heard? Your problems stem from her days on the track. She was also not handled like pleasure riding horses are, her life ws completely different to what you may be familiar with.

boots 12-30-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Saddlebag (Post 1821375)
"Did you see her being abused? Or is this just a story you heard? Your problems stem from her days on the track. She was also not handled like pleasure riding horses are, her life ws completely different to what you may be familiar with.


So... cough it up. What do you think would help this young lady and her horse? Regardless of whether the horse was abused or treated like a running godess? lol

I never care if a horse was abused. I ain't abusing it, so they will get treated like any other horse. Stop. Go. Right. Left. I don't ask for much, but I do insist on that. :-)

Speed Racer 12-30-2012 09:14 PM

If she was a 'hell of a racehorse', there's your problem. Horses who are successful on the track are never going to be laid back and easy going. They have a fire and spark that was necessary to race well, but doesn't translate to a life of trail riding.

I have an ex-racing TB. He was abysmally bad as a racehorse, which is why he makes a great hunter pace/trail horse. If he had been successful at racing, he'd never have transitioned well into a much slower lifestyle.

stevenson 12-30-2012 09:21 PM

she needs to start on the ground. Start over . Teach Stop. Walk. Whoa. I have some TB's one a mare, not good at the track, but she still needed whoa taught. They gelding who did decent and was raced until an old age for race horses 13 or so, you could not make run he would buck or rear when asked, but he also needed taught whoa. I was not the original owner and these horses had gone through many diff people before me. They came with behaviour issues and we just started in the arena to gain some respect and reteach the basic, stop , walk, turn left turn right and back up ... Have fun !!

Sadie00994 12-30-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Speed Racer (Post 1821400)
If she was a 'hell of a racehorse', there's your problem. Horses who are successful on the track are never going to be laid back and easy going. They have a fire and spark that was necessary to race well, but doesn't translate to a life of trail riding.

I have an ex-racing TB. He was abysmally bad as a racehorse, which is why he makes a great hunter pace/trail horse. If he had been successful at racing, he'd never have transitioned well into a much slower lifestyle.

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Sadie00994 12-30-2012 09:57 PM

Actually she's an amazing trail horse. Bomb proof, quiet, and tentative when in the woods or in fields. It's just occasionally on roads and almost always in the arena. She never runs off with me, she just pulls the bit the whole time and if I let up she takes that as an invite to run. Also, I help run a TB rescue and we have many ex racers that did well racing and are now excellent trail horses.
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Sadie00994 12-30-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenson (Post 1821423)
she needs to start on the ground. Start over . Teach Stop. Walk. Whoa. I have some TB's one a mare, not good at the track, but she still needed whoa taught. They gelding who did decent and was raced until an old age for race horses 13 or so, you could not make run he would buck or rear when asked, but he also needed taught whoa. I was not the original owner and these horses had gone through many diff people before me. They came with behaviour issues and we just started in the arena to gain some respect and reteach the basic, stop , walk, turn left turn right and back up ... Have fun !!

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EvilHorseOfDoom 12-30-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Speed Racer (Post 1821400)
If she was a 'hell of a racehorse', there's your problem. Horses who are successful on the track are never going to be laid back and easy going. They have a fire and spark that was necessary to race well, but doesn't translate to a life of trail riding.

I have an ex-racing TB. He was abysmally bad as a racehorse, which is why he makes a great hunter pace/trail horse. If he had been successful at racing, he'd never have transitioned well into a much slower lifestyle.

I'd agree with you in 90% of cases but two of the best school and trail horses I knew were top racehorses in their day. But they had been retrained by someone who was a very old hand at that sort of thing. They were fantastic horses, would always take care of their riders, whatever their level. But I do agree that it takes a lot of expertise to bring a horse that was a real goer at the track back to work as a great trail or school horse.


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