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valleychick2121 09-18-2008 08:40 PM

How to find Natural Trimmers???
 
Hey everyone. I usually get a regular farrier to trim my horses, but they seem to do the exact same trim for when they are putting a shoe on. I would like to find a natural trimmer (is that what they are called?) and see if he/she will do a better job. One filly bells out on her front feet, and the other breaks off in the middle on her fronts, and on both sides in the back. I don't know what causes this, but I've asked two different farriers and no one seems to have answers. Is there a website or something I can go to find one in my area? Thank you!

imaREINER 09-19-2008 05:38 PM

most every shoer can do different trims... you have to speak up and let them know how you want your horses foot to look...ask your farrier to do a mustang roll.... that is a natural trim

Vidaloco 09-19-2008 06:38 PM

You can ask your farrier about a barefoot trim, but any farrier I've had always poo pooed me and went ahead with the pre-shoe or pasture trim.
If yours will investigate and learn how to do a true barefoot trim, you need to give him a big ol hug and thank you :lol:
There are a few websites out there with lists by state for barefoot trims. I'll do some looking and edit in if I can find them.

http://www.thehorseshoof.com/ Check the trimmers list under resources

There is only one listed in Texas here http://www.hoofrehab.com/contact.htm

Vidaloco 09-19-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vidaloco
You can ask your farrier about a barefoot trim, but any farrier I've had always poo pooed me and went ahead with the pre-shoe or pasture trim.
If yours will investigate and learn how to do a true barefoot trim, you need to give him a big ol hug and thank you :lol:
There are a few websites out there with lists by state for barefoot trims. I'll do some looking and edit in if I can find them.

http://www.thehorseshoof.com/ Check the trimmers list under resources

There is only one listed in Texas here http://www.hoofrehab.com/contact.htm

You can try getting Pete Ramey's book ( http://www.hoofrehab.com/ ) and letting your farrier take a look at it. I tried that but still got no budging on the type of trim I got. I have a great natural trimmer now and couldn't be happier. Good luck in your search.

Oops sorry hit quote instead of edit :oops: heres a list of Strasser method trimmers
http://www.thenakedhoof.com.au/html/SHPList.htm

walkinthewalk 09-20-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vidaloco
You can ask your farrier about a barefoot trim, but any farrier I've had always poo pooed me and went ahead with the pre-shoe or pasture trim.

That is how I have found it too. Even my life-long friend and riding buddy in WPA thinks barefoot trimming is a bunch of nonsense :?

Much as she loves Duke, my metabolic horse, and she knows a half tablet of bute about knocks him clean out, she STILL thinks I should bute him to get shoes on his arthritic self because "they would be much better for his laminitic condition than running barefoot" :shock: So we don't discuss it anymore because she loses :lol:

Other places to also look would be the bulletin boards and counters in your local feed/tack shops and Tractor Supplies.

Sadly, like shoers, not all barefoot farriers are created equal either, so I would agree to buy the Pete Ramey book and read up on barefoot trimming.

That way, you will have a sense for what is right and wrong and if you're possibly being handed a line of baloney from someone :)

valleychick2121 09-20-2008 04:35 PM

Thank you everyone! I'm going to check out the book and see if I can budge my farrier. He takes too much out of their foot, and makes them ouchy when they walk around for a couple days and step on something hard, ex. a rock in the pasture. He does the same thing with putting shoes on, so idk if he will change. (Working with him, he also takes shortcuts on horses that aren't used for show and doesn't give his 100%) If not, we will just have to find another farrier who will do it right!

Appyt 09-23-2008 11:09 AM

Re: How to find Natural Trimmers???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by valleychick2121
Hey everyone. I usually get a regular farrier to trim my horses, but they seem to do the exact same trim for when they are putting a shoe on. I would like to find a natural trimmer (is that what they are called?) and see if he/she will do a better job. One filly bells out on her front feet, and the other breaks off in the middle on her fronts, and on both sides in the back. I don't know what causes this, but I've asked two different farriers and no one seems to have answers. Is there a website or something I can go to find one in my area? Thank you!

What causes it is flaring.. When walls flare they will break off as they grow too long. Go join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/barefoothorsecare/ and ask them for recommendations for a trimmer in your area.. if they don't know anyone post pics of your horses hooves and they will help you learn to trim them yourself.. It sounds like you would have to do a better job than you are getting now.

barefoothooves 09-23-2008 04:12 PM

You can also try looking on the Easy Care Inc site (makers of Easy boots) as they have a list of trimmers. It's basically a natrual trimmers classified ad, they aren't necessarily trained, but you can at least get some names and ask some questions and find someone in your area.

I think knowing what a good natural trim looks like is a good idea, so you don't get taken advantage of by some yahoo wanna-be. The internet and forums like this can really help you learn a lot about it. However, I don't recommend just reading some online help and trimming on your own without some hands-on. You can seriously mess up your horse's soundness. If you go the route of "do-it-yourself" please get some training first! Sometimes just picking up some nippers works out, but usually it doesn't.

So when you find someone, ask the right questions, what sort of training have they had-how much experience do they have and can they give references? Also, I think if a person does a barefoot trim but still does shoeing, as well, you won't get as good of a natural trim from them than from someone that does natural exclusively. Seems if you have shoes in the truck, it's easier to resort to that than to really think about the trim, plus shoeing can be more lucrative-a farrier makes more off shoes than trimming alone. (that's not saying they are just out to rip you off, either!!! Most farriers do want to help a horse out with everything they know, they just aren't up to date on the new techniques and are afraid to try it until they know it works and feel confident to learn it all over again)


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