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Of BROWN and BAY horses that show the difference really clearly. Also, for you color gurus (ooops the language po-po are gonna come get me, that's one of the words never to be used again, LOL!), can you give me a clear, concise and easily understandable definition of what brown is, why it's brown and not bay? Is it merely an absence of agouti? Or ????????
What I'm trying to figure out is, if I bred a cremello stallion to a 'brown' mare, what color would the foal be? I'm looking at a QH mare that is defined as brown and I like her pedigree, haven't seen her in person yet, and I'm wondering what her color components might be.
If the mare was homozygous for black and the brown agouti gene, you'd get a brownskin. If not, you could get a palomino, a buckskin, a smoky black, or a brownskin depending on what her genetic make up was.
Edit to add that it would also depend on what agouti genes the stallion was hiding.
Just like any other colour, there can be a wide variety of range in the shade of each of these colours. I picked them based on giving a good example of the differences - some bays are much darker, some browns are much lighter.
My Stallion is registered Bay, but most definitely brown, only time he's "red" is in the winter when his hair is SUPER long...
Winter: Sorry he's laying down, but you can see his underside is real light, red on his sides then dark up top :)
Ok, let me see if I've got this straight. Brown and Agouti are variations of the same modifier, but Brown doesn't restrict black to the points, and 'fades' the soft points? So, would a "brown" horse be able to throw a true buckskin with a cremello? It doesn't sound like it, more like you'd get the sooty variations? Is that correct?
So I'm usually horrible at color calculations with certain colors so chiilaa will have to check me but here's my slight shot in the dark. Let's see how wrong I am LOL. I'm thinking brownskin, smokey black, or Palomino? *dies* I know it will have one cream. I'm surprised the foal color calculator doesn't have brown included. I went there to check myself bit no help.
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Brown, when bred to a cremello can still have a bay foal. The bay form agouti could be comming from the cremello and not the brown.
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