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Tessa7707 01-03-2013 06:58 PM

Advice for teaching lessons with student-owned horses
 
I have been teaching lessons for about 4 years now. I taught at a camp and about 6 months ago started teaching lessons on my own. I use horses at a local facility and split the lesson fee with the owner of the horses.
I have been contacted by a woman asking about lessons for her daughter on her daughters horse. This will be the first time I have taught lessons with a student-owned horse. Im looking for advice and wisdom from the experienced. This girl is 9, started taking lessons at age 7 for about a year before getting her own horse, and has sort- of lost interest, according to her mom. Her mom wants to spark her interest again and make it fun again for her. She still ride her horse, but isn't as excited about im as she used to be.
I'm meeting with them on Saturday and I plan on sitting down and seeing where she falls within my existing program and what she already knows, asking her what she wants to learn and what made her want to ride horses in the first place.
I have already called my insurance company to add teaching lessons on student owned horses, left a message.
Any advice, criticism, tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated! Thanks all!

cakemom 01-03-2013 07:21 PM

My daughters lessons on her own horses. Occasionally I pay the trainer to ride the horses to tune and feel them out. They do great this way. When we leave she gives her something to work on in the coming week.
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xJumperx 01-03-2013 07:51 PM

I know I lesson on my own horse - in fact, my instructor requires it. I think it would almost be easier for you. No need to worry about spacing your horses out to make sure nobody gets too tired! Of course, you'd have the issue of the students having wacked up horses. But, as a previous poster mentioned, you could always ride them for a small fee, and tell them what to work on.

On a different note, I feel a bit bad for the mother, and the horse is well - the girl is young, and if she's loosing interest at that age, I doubt it will respark. It might, but I wouldn't count on it.

Saddlebag 01-03-2013 08:09 PM

Can you borrow a horse and take her for a trail ride? I've done many a lesson on the trail and it sure beats endless circles in the ring.

Tessa7707 01-03-2013 08:54 PM

Yes, I have access to horses at my current barn. I'm not sure if there are trails at the students facility, but I could trailer somewhere. I do take my students on trail currently. I use it as a break and to talk about lengthy topics, answer questions, etc. I'm not sure how her horse is on trails, how he gets along with other horses, how he trailers, etc. I'm also going to be training a 2 1/2 year old for a woman who boards at this same facility in return for her sharing her some 30 odd years of experience with me. This will also be my first time training a horse under saddle. I have done lots of ground work leading up to the first ride with a crop of 6 young horses, but didn't get to train in the saddle. Not sure if I feel comfortable riding a baby out on a trail ride with a student. I'm very excited to become involved in any capacity with this new facility. The first time I saw it I thought 'this is where I want to work' its perfect aside from its lack of an indoor, but my guess is that the owners will add one eventually.
I currently charge $40 an hour for a lesson, how much should I be charging a student with their own horse? How much should I charge to ride the horse?

HorseMom1025 01-03-2013 10:03 PM

My daughter rides her own horse at lessons and she is trained no differently than the kids who ride school horses. We pay $40 per hour group, $50 per hour semi-private (two students), $60 per hour for private. School horse kids pay the same. The difference is what our trainer pays per kid to the Barn owner. I think she pays $10-$15 for kids using school horses and less for kids with their own horse.
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Tessa7707 01-04-2013 12:26 AM

Thanks horse mom. So is it reasonable for me to charge the same amount? I'm calling the owners of the facility tomorrow. Should I be offering to pay a portion for using the facility? Is that included because the student pays to board there? @ cake mom , how much do you pay your trainer to ride your horse?

Phura 01-05-2013 12:02 AM

I live in the midwest and my trainer charges $12/hr plus $1/mile she travels 1 way for gas for riding my horse and then guiding me in my goals for my horse at the end of the lesson. I'm going to start taking lessons at another indoor arena with her as my trainer on lesson horses...those are going to be $40 for an hour for a private lesson and $25/hr for a joint lesson with one other student. Hope this helps!

HorseMom1025 01-05-2013 12:09 AM

We pay board, but our trainer still pays the owner a small per lesson fee to use the facility. Probably because we "monopolize" part of the arena for lessons. (We are always willing to share, but it seems basic ettiquette not to ride through the middle of a lesson, thus the arena access is reduced when we are using it.)
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Tessa7707 01-05-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Phura (Post 1829548)
I live in the midwest and my trainer charges $12/hr plus $1/mile she travels 1 way for gas for riding my horse and then guiding me in my goals for my horse at the end of the lesson. I'm going to start taking lessons at another indoor arena with her as my trainer on lesson horses...those are going to be $40 for an hour for a private lesson and $25/hr for a joint lesson with one other student. Hope this helps!

Thanks! Yes, that's very helpful


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