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cobbchick2003 01-09-2013 12:46 AM

no pay for boarding horses california
 
long story short. Neighbor cant take care of horses. She has a drug problem. My teenage son was feeding them for a couple of months on her property-which runs along side of ours, (no water source. she only came over between midnight and 5 am). She never paid him and we had to buy feed for the most part so her horses wouldn't starve. So....her horses got loose a month or two ago....agricultural sheriff came out and we dint want to see them go somewhere that they wouldn't be together and taken care of right-or run ay risk, (I suppose I should mention that I feel in love with her sorting horse). So.....horses have been at our place-feed bill has gone up around 800/month). They also needed hoof trimming/worming etc. I spoke with local sheriff who said he has "A long history with her" Anyhow, This woman is apparently "homeless" so registered letters wot work. Upon the Sheriffs advice I sent her a text stating she had 30 days to get horses-no response.......imagine this from a woman who was filling horse water with 2 liter soda bottles from our tank.....then just gave up and left their care to us. I have no idea what to do or how to file a lien. I just know that these horses were left for dead and I have to do something. We love them now. Any advice would be really appreciated- thank you.

themacpack 01-09-2013 12:48 AM

If you want to pursue this via legal channels, I strongly suggest you obtain the services of an attorney.

Phly 01-09-2013 12:52 AM

I'm sure lawyers will be mentioned. Myself? I'd either sell them or keep them. But I would keep reciepts of any and all costs you've incurred. You didn't steal them, you said the sheriff more or less let you take control of them. They know where n how you got them.
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cobbchick2003 01-09-2013 12:53 AM

I was thinking the same I looked up the laws- I went to law school before I became a nurse and can read them......I suppose I was trying o see if anyone has had issues like this before I pour a bunch of over time into an attorney when possibly I can do it myself? Hopefully do it myself....that's what i should say. Whole situation makes me sick to my stomach........

themacpack 01-09-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Phly (Post 1836004)
I'm sure lawyers will be mentioned. Myself? I'd either sell them or keep them. But I would keep reciepts of any and all costs you've incurred. You didn't steal them, you said the sheriff more or less let you take control of them. They know where n how you got them.
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This person has no legal right to sell the horses until they have obtained legal ownership of them.

Phly 01-09-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by themacpack (Post 1836007)
This person has no legal right to sell the horses until they have obtained legal ownership of them.

Legally that'd be in question. In the real world, law of the land, I say she does. Right and wrong morally vs legal law us up to each of us to decide. My gelding came from a farm that had pretty much the same thing happen. Ole boy quit feeding, neighbors took over the animals. He knew he was wrong and that was handled. I'm not saying there isn't proper channels that should or shouldn't be taken but that's how I see it and seeing as how a question was asked to an open forum I answered how I'd honestly handle it. Not gonna argue about the legal ramifications at all or my opinion. As its been given. :)
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cobbchick2003 01-09-2013 01:23 AM

I agree. I think thats my problem. I think Im scared that if she does quit doing her meth, and comes after us later down the road ......she can take them back after thousands of dollars have been put into them. It really is a bad situation......I put pad locks on the gates.....we really have tried wokring with the woman. Last time she came over she brought some man who literally crapped his pants in the yard because he was going through DT's.....then we got the same old, "Ill bring feed tomorrow I promise" Even the horse shoe-er wrote us out a thing that said they were beyond overdue. two of the three had cracked/overgrow hooves. Im not sure...I just know that these are three special animals well, two special animals, one is actually a 23 year old grump who bites my daughters horse day in and day out, who's more then likely gonna cost us a back how bill when he dies...ROAR...

Freemare 01-09-2013 09:46 AM

If anything you need to call your local animal control and talk to them about it. We had a lady in are area that took in some horses after her next door naoughbor lost her house. She did not want to get ride of the horses. So being a kind soul she look them in. The lady said she would bring feed over every week. She brought feed over once and never saw her again. My friend did not have legal rights over the horses, so she could not sell them. After about a year thinking this lady did not want them. My friend got a legal notice in the mail saying she was in trouble with taking the horses.....etc long story short. A friend helping someone, who did not care. Who then spent lots of money feeding the horses, and there care. Became the victum of her own kindness.

Speed Racer 01-09-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Phly (Post 1836026)
In the real world, law of the land, I say she does.

And yet, the COURTS and law enforcement officials may say otherwise. I wouldn't be giving someone advice like that, especially since it can easily come back to bite her in the butt later. :?

OP, if you want the horses go through the proper legal channels to obtain them. If you just take them on without bothering to obtain legal ownership, then you're setting yourself up for heartache and an empty pocketbook later, and you won't have any recourse.

Saddlebag 01-09-2013 12:34 PM

People who wind up with other people animals do have protection under the law for compensation. I may be called a Mechanic's Lien, in Ontario it's the Innkeeper's Act. Check with the state/provincial dept of agriculture, country extension agent. The rules are fairly easy to obtain. One these animals enter your property you may have an automatic lien on them. In Ontario one has to publish a notice of debt, namng the person, the amount of debt and the horse's as she called them. State a time limit and name the date. Also state if payment isn't received by that date the horses will be sold at the first public auction. Now, in Ontario, you are entitled to add reasonable fees. Should you retrieve all your board monies and reasonable fees, any remaining must be turned over to the owner. If you wish to keep these horses, get it in writing of the seizure from the sheriff's department. Should the owner show up you have legal claim but don't tell her that. Write down all the expenses and have them handy and demand immediately payment. I promise you she will vanish.


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