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DraftyAiresMum 01-11-2013 12:01 PM

A couple of questions
 
Ok, so we've had Abby now for three weeks and she's doing great and growing like a weed. She's super smart and already knows "sit," "out of the kitchen," "inside," "outside," "gently" (when taking food), and "go to bed." We're working on potty training.

My first question is regarding crate training. I've never crate trained a dog before, as Cash (my big dog) was already crate trained when I got him and it wasn't really "mainstream" until a few years ago. My question is not how to crate train, but rather what size crate to get. Cash, I know, needs a 48" crate. We had a 36" that he fit in when I got him, but he outgrew it, so I gave it.to a friend for her puppy a couple of years ago. Should I get the size crate Abby will eventually need (a 48") or start smaller and upgrade as she grows?

Second question is about leash training. I've leash trained puppies before (although it's been YEARS), but I've never had a puppy like Abby. She's incredibly smart, but she's also incredibly stubborn. She absolutely refuses to move if you have the leash in your hand and no amount of treats or persuasion will make her move. She'll drag the leash just fine, but as soon as your hand touches the leash, she digs her feet in and won't move. Ideas?
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wetrain17 01-11-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum (Post 1839331)
Ok, so we've had Abby now for three weeks and she's doing great and growing like a weed. She's super smart and already knows "sit," "out of the kitchen," "inside," "outside," "gently" (when taking food), and "go to bed." We're working on potty training.

My first question is regarding crate training. I've never crate trained a dog before, as Cash (my big dog) was already crate trained when I got him and it wasn't really "mainstream" until a few years ago. My question is not how to crate train, but rather what size crate to get. Cash, I know, needs a 48" crate. We had a 36" that he fit in when I got him, but he outgrew it, so I gave it.to a friend for her puppy a couple of years ago. Should I get the size crate Abby will eventually need (a 48") or start smaller and upgrade as she grows?

Second question is about leash training. I've leash trained puppies before (although it's been YEARS), but I've never had a puppy like Abby. She's incredibly smart, but she's also incredibly stubborn. She absolutely refuses to move if you have the leash in your hand and no amount of treats or persuasion will make her move. She'll drag the leash just fine, but as soon as your hand touches the leash, she digs her feet in and won't move. Ideas?
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As far as the crates are concerned, get one big enough that the dog will fit into when its an adult. Crates come with a divider that you can limit the amount of space the puppy has and can move it back further into the crate as the dog gets bigger.

As far as the leash, I'm not too sure of how to do it nicely. My dog was the same as a puppy. I just pulled her along until it clicked that it was easier to walk then get pulled a long. It took about 30 seconds for her. But every dog is different and I'm sure there are a lot better ways to go about it.

DraftyAiresMum 01-11-2013 01:41 PM

We try to take her as many places as possible and the other day in the CAL Ranch store was ridiculous. She just sat back and fought as hard as she could (which was considerable). Tried dragging her down the aisle and she started yelping. Even Cash was looking askance at her. I'm almost tempted to clip her to Cash's collar and let him walk her. Lol.
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Chevaux 01-11-2013 01:48 PM

Re crates: Sorry, I don't do crates so can't offer suggestions there.

Re leash training: When she plants herself, pull her off balance by doing a sideways pull rather than straight on - same principal as a sticky horse. If you do lots of changes in direction when you finally get her going, it will be kind of fun for her and she'll get the idea quicker. Good luck.

wetrain17 01-11-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum (Post 1839440)
I'm almost tempted to clip her to Cash's collar and let him walk her. Lol.
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You could try it and see how it goes. She has to get used to it at some point. You could also try a really long piece of string too. I've seen my neighbor have to do this. She's uses about a 20' piece of string to tie on the puppy for those who are a little more challenging. I guess the dog is more apt to follow on a longer leash because of lack of tension. She'll shorten the string as the dog progresses.

csimkunas6 01-11-2013 03:02 PM

I bought a crate that is big enough for them when they are an adult. Going to have to buy another one here shortly for the new pup.

As far as the leash training goes, Ive honestly never had an issue, the puppy always wanted to go where I did, and I used that, but what you could also use is your other dog as persuasion to go forward. See if that does anything :D

DraftyAiresMum 01-11-2013 03:48 PM

She wants to go and is glued to my heels wherever we go. But as soon as she sees a hand on the leash or she feels tension, she turns into a burro. My boyfriend thinks it's funny (typical guy), but it's becoming a PITA, especially since she's getting so big. I use just a flat collar on her and don't want to use a choke chain if I can help it (at all, but especially while she's so young).
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LadyDreamer 01-11-2013 05:21 PM

How does she respond with Cash?

When we got our Great Dane puppy, she was terrified. Every now and the. She would lock up and hit the ground. Since my group of dogs is very well mannered and well trained, I would call one in to us, and it would catch her attention and unlock her enough that we could go for a walk around the farm. Every now and again, she would lock up again, and I would just do the same thing. She learned very quickly. The influence of other dogs is amazing.
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DraftyAiresMum 01-11-2013 05:25 PM

She adores Cash. She's very outgoing, friendly, loving and precocious all the time, even with strangers. It's just when there's a leash on her. She plants her feet, sits back and ducks her head/hunches her shoulders. No amount of coaxing will get her to move, not even Cash on the leash right there with her (he's very well-mannered on the leash).
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wetrain17 01-11-2013 08:39 PM

Just be patient and persistent. Have several training sessions throughout the day. She'll catch on eventually.
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