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Ashleysmardigrasgirl 01-11-2013 10:46 PM

please be kind but, critique me...
 
I'm super duper nervous to post this but, for the benefit of myself and more importantly my filly I would like some critique. Try not to hurt my pride too much, LOL... Please note we're both very new as you can tell my hand position is crap (tips on improving would be appreciated!)... This is her fourth time ground driving and I'm sure any problems you see from her are probably my fault :oops: but, again that's why I'm asking for a critique.

oh, and she didn't woah or back up very straight at the beginning which is what we sort of played with during the 'lesson'. I thought she got a little more responsive by the end? thoughts?

Oh yeah... And I'm too close to her behind :oops:


Taffy Clayton 01-11-2013 11:25 PM

Your horse is a sweet looking thing!!

Okay, I think you were doing very well for a beginner, I can't remember how old your horse is, I think it is a youngster.

I think you need to adjust your bridle and put her eyeballs in the middle of the blinders. The blinder her left is too high, I couldn't tell about the right.

If she is truly a yearling or slightly older, good work, and keep it up. I think she is doing great for her age. but start taking up contact on the bit and ask her to start moving forward. Start carrying a whip to get both you and her used to it.

If she is a two year old, deffinatly start getting more contact, start using the saddle for the harness and put the reins through the tugs or use your riding saddle and put the reins through the stirrups. Use the whip and your voice to get her moving forward. It is good that she lets the reins bang around and touch her up and down her legs and sides. Start getting the reins under her tail and between her legs so she gets used to that too.

I think you look great for the stage you are at.

STOP BACKING Backing is an advanced move in driving, you never want backing to be an evasive move, Backing uncommanded is very dangerous. Carrying a whip will help if she backs too much or starts to back uncommanded. I rarely practice backing, Pilgrim starts to anticipate the back if I do it to much, Bad Boy.

Ashleysmardigrasgirl 01-11-2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton (Post 1840249)
Your horse is a sweet looking thing!!

Okay, I think you were doing very well for a beginner, I can't remember how old your horse is, I think it is a youngster.

I think you need to adjust your bridle and put her eyeballs in the middle of the blinders. The blinder her left is too high, I couldn't tell about the right.

If she is truly a yearling or slightly older, good work, and keep it up. I think she is doing great for her age. but start taking up contact on the bit and ask her to start moving forward. Start carrying a whip to get both you and her used to it.

If she is a two year old, deffinatly start getting more contact, start using the saddle for the harness and put the reins through the tugs or use your riding saddle and put the reins through the stirrups. Use the whip and your voice to get her moving forward. It is good that she lets the reins bang around and touch her up and down her legs and sides. Start getting the reins under her tail and between her legs so she gets used to that too.

I think you look great for the stage you are at.

STOP BACKING Backing is an advanced move in driving, you never want backing to be an evasive move, Backing uncommanded is very dangerous. Carrying a whip will help if she backs too much or starts to back uncommanded. I rarely practice backing, Pilgrim starts to anticipate the back if I do it to much, Bad Boy.

She's the best! I couldn't have asked for a more patient and kind hearted filly.

Funny you say that because right after this was shot, I adjusted my bridle a hole and X-D my blinder keepers were pretty bent out of shape and I reformed them to fit much better. Also went through and conditioned my leather and polished all of the brass hardware that had turned black from many years of use. It looks rather spiffy if I do say so myself...

Yes, technically for another month she is a yearling LOL... 1 year 11 months. Do you have any suggestions for getting correct hand position? I'm finding it very hard to maintain steady even contact while walking behind.

Will for sure stop backing her. thanks for the input taffy I really appreciate it!

Muppetgirl 01-11-2013 11:44 PM

What Taffy said.....and I would get much longer driving reins, being in that close doesn't offer you any room to move and makes things tricker when turning. You will find if you make your lines around 15ft longer you will have a little more room to move and it will be much much easier....especially with a driving whip in your hand.

Mochachino 01-11-2013 11:47 PM

Looks good and she looks very willing and sweet. I use lounge lines on either side when I ground drive and put them through the stirrups.

Ashleysmardigrasgirl 01-11-2013 11:50 PM

Thanks muppetgirl :D. I was planning on switching up the reins to my leather driving reins LOL, they're actually on my bridle as of a few hours ago (after I finished cleaning everything up). But they are a very well used set of smuckers reins with a buckle that is not very easily undone since the leather has been thread through the buckle so many times it's kind of swollen?... So for the early part when I was using one rein it was easier to use the clip ons and not deal with a giant leather strap and difficult buckle... and I hadn't gotten around to switching them back yet, hehe.

Taffy Clayton 01-11-2013 11:56 PM

I think you need to get better reins. The leadropes are to heavy and that big snap right on her bit is heavy there also. If you dont want to use your driving reins, what you could use is a small snap then clothes line back to a set of riding reins. And putting the reins through the tugs or the stirrups will help to keep the reins off the ground and keep beter track of them, so you can concentrate on more contact.
Practice touching her with the whip and letting it touch her all over, Remember the whip is an aid , I am all for a pop with the whip when needed but never more than once and never in anger. Also don't nag with the whip, use it with enough energy that she knows what you want then stop. Don't nag with it so she starts to ignore it.

Ashleysmardigrasgirl 01-12-2013 12:04 AM

taffy

I defiantly agree with you on the leads. They kind of worked for my intended purposes when using them one at a time but, now they're just hindering us. I'm going to use my driving reins from now on and I'm going to see if I can also find snaps that will fit the ends of them so I can quickly release them from her bridle if I need for later on so I don't have have to deal with the buckles.

She's familiar with the whip and I can touch her anywhere with it and same with leads :). I was waiting to incorporate more of the whip until I developed a better contact with her but, do you think I should try to use it now?

Taffy Clayton 01-12-2013 12:13 AM

I would start carrying it until you feel naked with out it, you don't have to use it.
You can start to carry a long dressage whip, untill you get used to it then move up to a driving whip.

Ashleysmardigrasgirl 01-12-2013 12:16 AM

taffy

Oh my gosh, don't know why I didn't think about using my dressage whip X-D I feel very awkward carrying a big driving whip atm; but, am very comfortable with my dressage whip wonderful idea. Thank you very much taffy!

Also forgot to mention not that it particularly matters but, she has worn the entire harness before and is perfectly calm with it on and the noise it makes.


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