|Fatcat13 ||01-14-2013 12:03 AM |
Hanoverian / TB cross How to register foal
I am totally unfamiliar with Warm Blood registries. I have had some real hard luck with my horse over the past few years and threw in the towell last February when I had to put my QH Appendix hunt seat mare down. I just gave up on owning any more horses. However, I came across a Hanoverian/TB cross 2yr old today that I really like. The owner has all types of papers regarding the Hanoverian sire and TB dam... I cannot remeber their names right now... MY QUESTION: can a 1/2 Hanoverian 1/2 TB foal be registered if the dam was not approved? I don't know if she was or not. If not, and the foal can still be registered, what would a person have to do? What does it mean to have one inspected for registry? I am not familiar with the hunter/jumper world... do they have regular flat classes (not over fences) and if so, are unregistered horse welcome? Thank you for any responses.
|Kayty ||01-14-2013 12:09 AM |
Unfortunately if you want the 2 year old to be registered in the Hanoverian studbook, the mare will need to be assessed and approved by a studbook representative as a foundation mare. Otherwise the best you'll get is probably your countries generic 'warmblood' registry.
I have a HanoverianxTB 2 year old as well, but his dam was assessed and approved by a visiting rep. He was subsequently branded with the Hanoverian 'H' and registered.
|Fatcat13 ||01-14-2013 12:13 AM |
How can I find out if the mare was approved?
|Kayty ||01-14-2013 12:18 AM |
Speak to the owners. If she's approved, she would have attended a Hanoverian inspection day, and will have papers as a Hanoverian foundation mare. Her registered name should now contain an 'xx' after her name, if she has been approved.
|Fatcat13 ||01-14-2013 12:24 AM |
Thank you. I will try to track down the owner of the mare.
PS... what are Hanoverian/TB best used for? Can they be shown w/o being registered? Does being registered in the Warmblood registry add any value or show opportunites?
|gypsygirl ||01-14-2013 12:26 AM |
i know a lot that are hunters and eventers ! as well as a couple who are dressage horses.
my hano/tb is registered as a hanoverian sport horse, but i didnt register her.
|Kayty ||01-14-2013 12:29 AM |
If you want to attend breed shows, they have to be registered under the particular breed registry. A HanoverianxTB will be treated exactly as a pure Hanoverian, not a cross, if the mare is approved and registered with the stud book.
Their uses really depend on their breeding and the individual horse. I purchased my youngster as a Dressage prospect, his sire was imported from Germany and he is now one of the top Grand Prix Dressage stallions in Aust. Its looking like he has the paces and talent for Dressage, however like his sire, I'd say he'll be able to jump too.
|Fatcat13 ||01-14-2013 12:41 AM |
Thanks. She seems to be a really sweet mare; not much handling, but the biggest, kindess eye. Measures to be 16 H. Bay with a forelock almost to her nose. Always thought Hanoverians would be tall. Maybe it was a short TB :). Im too old to start jumping--have never ridden dressage, so I don't know what I'll do with her. But, since all I have done is sit in the house for the past year, maybe she'll be a good excuse to go to the barn again and if nothing else, maybe she can make a good trail horse or non-breed open show hunt seater.
|Kayty ||01-14-2013 03:48 AM |
Nope they're not all tall! Just like not all people are tall ;)
I have two registered Hanoverians, my 11 year old has fully imported bloodlines with successful Dressage horses and Show Jumpers on both sides. He is only 15.2hh.
My 2 year old's sire is a whisker off 17hh, dam is just over 16hh and he is currently 15.2hh, I'd say he'll go just over 16hh.
|Blingaling ||01-14-2013 05:35 AM |
Actually, first you need to find out if the stallion was ever approved & by which registry. Just because he is Hanoverian doesn't mean he was ever approved by them. For example, he could be approved Oldenburg, RPSI, BWP, etc but not Hanoverian. Also find out of the mare was approved and where. At this point, you will also need to do DNA before you can register, which means obtaining samples from both parents as well (usually the sire will be on file somewhere IF he has a breeding license) and sending that in. You will also need a copy of the mare's papers and a breeding certificate if possible. To register the horse, you will need to attend an inspection over the summer (a few exceptions to that). What is the actual pedigree?
If neither parent were ever approved, then your options are next to nothing. Maybe PHR or the very lowest books of RPSI, possibly a Hanoverian COP. It's not as simple as the foal just being 1/2 Hanoverian and being able to register it like you would, say, a half Arab.
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