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Breezy2011 01-14-2013 08:30 PM

Barrel Prospect...
 
Would Breeze make a good small show/rodeo barrel horse? She will be my first prospect and is 2 years old. Don't worry, I am not planning on breaking her until she is 3. If she is not good for Barrel Racing and reining (I will be doing that with her first) then what do you guys think she would be good in.

Breeze has tight turns, fast stops and is fast running around the pen. She is athletic and agile and has the looks.

I will be training Breeze myself. We have been coming along great. The only problem that we have... which I am working on, is lunging. Some days she is great, and the perfect horse, but some days she can buck and kick and jump, pinning her ears and squilling. She is not in pain, I know that, and we are working on it, other then that she:
-backs up
-stays out of my space unless invited in
-has had a bareback pad on her back with sturrips hitting her side
-yeilds hind and fore quarters
-leads behind and by my side
-great leading in the open
-picks up feet
- we are working on ground driving (just waiting for some stuff to get here that I ordered

If she is suite to be a barrel horse, is their any training I can do right now, and in the spring, on the ground, like lunging around barrels, or anything else?

Here are pictures
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...60062238_n.jpg
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http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...19095156_n.jpg
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...77644007_n.jpg
http://http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net...51382267_n.jpg
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...18868830_n.jpg

These pics are not the greatest, but what do you think about conformation, looks, a prospect for anything?

If she is not suite to be a barrel prospect, I am okay with her being anything else in the western riding. I will not do english.

I will be entering her in halter and showmanship this summer in at least 4 shows. I will be brining her to rodeo, but not entering her in it.

kassierae 01-14-2013 08:37 PM

You've asked this question I think twice before, at least. The answer isn't going to change. 99% of horses can pretty much do anything at the lower levels. She will be just fine for local shows and rodeos, may even hold her own in NBHA. Also, when she starts squealing/kicking/bucking make her work harder. Pop the whip behind her or on her butt if you have to.
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Breezy2011 01-14-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kassierae (Post 1844425)
You've asked this question I think twice before, at least. The answer isn't going to change. 99% of horses can pretty much do anything at the lower levels. She will be just fine for local shows and rodeos, may even hold her own in NBHA. Also, when she starts squealing/kicking/bucking make her work harder. Pop the whip behind her or on her butt if you have to.
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I think I have only asked once before, and not quite the same question. When she does, I ignore it, and continue lunging her, but harder and make her go the way SHE wants to go, and make it so it is harder work, giving her the option to go my way, and make it easier.

She gets the hang of it eventually. By the end of the day, she is nicely walking and trotting circles around me. I don't do it much because of joints though.

Deschutes 01-14-2013 08:49 PM

No. You make her go where you want her to. Not the other way around. If you let her go wherever she wants, that is a win on her side. Doesn't matter if she's running hard or not. You are in control of her feet 100% of the time. Not fifty, not twenty five or ninety eight... Doing other wise is inconsistent, and I believe, will be more trouble down the road.

Why in the world are you even using a stirrupped bareback pad, anyway? Those things are dangerous. And I sure wouldn't like some floppy stirrups banging on my sides, either.

You posted the exact same thread under training... Its spam.

kassierae 01-14-2013 08:51 PM

Regardless, conformation does not usually change. Legs may straighten as the horse widens but angles will pretty much stay the same. By ignoring her and letting her do what she wants you're teaching her that she CAN do what she wants. My gelding doesn't like to lunge to the right, he constantly tries to turn around or shoot through the middle. Doesn't mean I let him, though. I turn him MY way and make him do what I want. Otherwise he'll just take advantage, like very many young horses.
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.Delete. 01-14-2013 08:57 PM

She would be alright for 4h is basically what everyone is saying. That opinion isn't going to change no matter how many times you post the same question.

.Delete. 01-14-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezy2011 (Post 1844439)
I think I have only asked once before, and not quite the same question. When she does, I ignore it, and continue lunging her, but harder and make her go the way SHE wants to go, and make it so it is harder work, giving her the option to go my way, and make it easier.

She gets the hang of it eventually. By the end of the day, she is nicely walking and trotting circles around me. I don't do it much because of joints though.

Allowing naughty-ness on the lunge line, especially with young ones. Often translates into naughty-ness under saddle.

Deschutes 01-14-2013 09:02 PM

Yup. Whay delete and kassirae says.

I've worked with a gelding who detests lunging, and will literally wrap the lead rope around his neck as he has "learned" it makes him stop lunging. I have to effectively push him out and pull his nose in before he pulls that stunt. Otherwise, he fights it with a buck and a crow hop or a what have you.

It doesn't stop me from making him work and driving him even more. He can act like an ass all he wants. It won't change the fact I'm demanding his respect.

rookie 01-14-2013 09:13 PM

I agree with the above. I have a gelding who used to like to buck, crow hop and rear on the lunge line. He once tried to rear, twist and kick all at once in a deep area of the arena the result was him falling over. Once he got up he still had to go back to working the same direction he was going before he wigged out. Things got easier when he figured out all being a weenie on the line did was make me curse and work him harder in that direction. He hates going to the left, so he works to the left a bit. When he is good to the left he is rewarded by being allowed to stop and turn around and go to the right.

I am balls at conformation so I won't say much on that account.

Breezy2011 01-14-2013 09:15 PM

First of all, I use the bareback pad to get her use to a girth and sturrips, I do not RIDE in it, I use it as a training tool. Secondly... It is what a lot of horse trainers say to do. If a horse wants to do something you don't want them to do, make them uncomfortably and harder for them, let them choose the easy way. For example, if a horse doesn't want to leave the barn, let them stay at the barn, but make it hard work and uncomfortable for them, then take them to where YOU want to go. I know what I am doing.


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