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cowgirlup07 01-23-2013 03:15 PM

Looking to buy.... Which one do u think?
Which horse do you like more in conformation, color and overall look/health? I do NOT take credit on any of these pictures, I DID NOT TAKE THESE PHOTOS! The grey is a 2007 AQHA mare, broke, open to breed, Poco Hancock Wimpy and Blue Valentine lines. the cremello is a 15 year old (approx) mare no papers broke and reliable but requires front shoes unknown bloodlines open to breed.

Link to greys pedigree:
Lastchancepocococo Quarter Horse

The cremello mare-

Elana 01-23-2013 03:25 PM

What I can see of the Cremello is what I like. Looks like good bone, correct legs... and the right angles to the hind leg.

Better photos would help. A lot.

cowgirlup07 01-23-2013 03:29 PM

I thought so too. The only problem with her is she has to be limited on turnout and if ridden has to have shoes, shes been lame in her front end with laminitis.

franknbeans 01-23-2013 03:30 PM

I personally would run away from ANY horse that they told me HAD to have front shoes-especially a 15 yr old one. It just screams "navicular" to me. Period.

Why are you so interested in "open to breed"? If you are looking to breed, you should NOT be looking at a grade horse, IMO.

cowgirlup07 01-23-2013 03:34 PM

The stud is a registered paint, breeding for a good quality PtHA foal, wanting to compete on the mare too.

The cremello is supposedly very much reliable, leave her for 6 months go out catch her and go without issues. I dont like the shoes thing either. The younger mare is in good health, no hoof trouble no previous founder, laminitis or colic

franknbeans 01-23-2013 03:48 PM

So you are just looking for one to breed a stud to you already have or have picked out? Pretty much just for looks? Sure what it sounds like, but I sure hope not.

I personally think the cremello is cowhocked, but, just what I see from bad pictures.

EthanQ 01-23-2013 03:53 PM

I personally like the first one better. The cremello has too many problems. Buying a potentially lame horse is a terrible idea, and I don't exactly like her neck.

Elana 01-23-2013 04:13 PM

I had no idea the Cremello had foundered in front.

I do not like the grullo because she appears tied in at the knee as well as sickle hocked/camped under. She looks "weedy."

The cremello seems to have good bone, correct angles and is a nice horse. The disposition is another thing I would like.

That being said, a horse that has foundered can be a problem, especially if you are breeding the horse and it is a mare. Foaling can induce founder and anything going wrong at all can induce founder. If it is bad enough you can lose the mare AND the foal.

I will also add this. I would not breed either of these horses. They are not good enough to be bred. A horse for breeding, especially the broodmare, should either be a proven producer (sometimes you can get something VERY good that is older but that horse may have issues catching and retaining a fetus).

Broodmares are not cheap and not grade horses. So ofter someone wants to breed a horse and they get.. well.. junk.. for the broodmare. remember, 1/2 of the genes and a larger part of temperament (because the mare raises the foal) is from the MARE.

In looking at the Cremello, she may have some insulin resistance or even Cushings (see the crest on her neck?). A horse with this trouble should not be bred.

In looking at the grullo I see bow legged behind, back at the knee and tied at the knee in front and bad hing leg angulation. This horse is also one that should not be bred.

If you really like the stallion you are looking at, have you considered buying one of his foals out of a really nice mare? Less expense in the long run really and much better shot at getting something of good quality.

Elana 01-23-2013 04:15 PM

Another thought on breeding.. sometimes you can lease a very good broodmare for breeding. After the foal is weaned, she goes back to the owner.

cowgirlup07 01-23-2013 04:59 PM

Breeding more for temperment than looks. But there are some good ideas here on buying one of the studs foals or leasing a mare.

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