I have a two year old who doesnt have any withers. When a saddle is placed on him and tightened no matter how tight i get it, it slips. It also sits off his back at the farthest point about an inch. Im trying to figure out what all i need to possibly ad to the tack to get the saddle to sit right on him.
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1st picture is how all of the bar should rest against your Horse
This next picture is how the wrong bar would fit is too wide or too narrow
If the angle of the bar is incorrect, there is really nothing you can do to make it fit.
I have seen some expensive saddle pads with wedge shims, although I am nit a fan of them.
Ill have to look out how it sits on him. It kinda seems like the bars are too narrow for him.
If this is happening and you have a mutton withered horse than you need a FQHB or even x wide one would be my guess.
The saddles are not going to fit him no matter what you do if it does not fit to begin with. That is why it is slipping. And it is not fair to him to keep cinching it down when it doesn't fit.
Pads won't help either in this case.
You need to go saddle shopping, trying them on him to see what fits him. A saddle, when fitting properly, should enable you to grasp the horn and rock horse to you and away without it slipping.
But dangerous to use a saddle that fits this poorly, and can get you seriously hurt.
I have a horse with mutton withers more or less, and my old Circle Y comes the closest to fitting him.
Do you have conformation pictures of this horse, and pictures showing what the saddles are sitting on him like? That would help.
One good thing that comes out of owning a mutton-withered horse is it sure teaches balance. But, even with a fairly good fit, the saddle is inclined to move if the rider puts more pressure in one stirrup.
My little Rocky is very mutton withered and I had one Hell of a time getting saddles to fit him. I ended up getting a custom made saddle from Crestridge Saddlery for him and it fits great! I also got a supra cinch which is kind of like a double pack cinch, cinching tight front and rear. It really helps keep the saddle in place, especially when getting on and off from the ground (which I usually try to avoid for him). He was always a little cinchy, I think from the last people that had him had to cinch the breath out of him to get the saddle to stay in place. He is MUCH happier now and rides much better. The first and most important part of the equation is saddle fit. No saddle is ever perfect but it needs to be close and not cause pain.
Find a saddle that fits him and use a breast collar always. They will keep it from sliding all the way to one side.
Oh oh!! me me!!!
I had this EXACT issue with my extremely fat, extremely wide no wither percheron mix. Nothing fit him, Draft saddles still had too much of an angle of the bars to sit comfortably.
I ordered an aussie saddle from downunder saddlery, they have a line called Kimberly that is very cheap (my leather outback model saddle cost $350, and it is an awesome saddle, it oils well, stands up to abuse, and looks gorgeous). They have synthetics too. You send them the measurements and 'wither tracing' s of your horse from different sections of it's back, they fit you a saddle.
But having a horse like this I've come to learn means all saddles will roll and move around. There's no escape! No breast collar, no saddle pad, no cinch will stop it, but some will help. Good luck!!
Next time I saddle him up which should be this coming week I will get a picture of how the saddle fits. Though it sounds like he needs a full quarter horse bar instead of a semi.
This is the best picture I have of him actually standing still. Its about 6 months ago, so he is a little more level and not so down hill.
At two years old it is hard to get a good fitting Saddle.
He will change a lot by the time he gets 5
Judging by the pic a Full-QH Bar now is too wide, he will probably need it one day
PS, take the pics with no pad under the saddle, best way to judge
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