help lazy horse
hello, I am breaking my filly. I can get on her and off with no problems, she takes the bit well and does lunging good. but when you get on her and get her going she runs and then we slow her down but when she stops she stops and we cant get her to walk more than a couple feet with her. we can get her to turn and back up but not go foward! how do i fix this problem??
1) Do you have a professional/someone who breaks horses and knows what they're doing to help? If not, find someone.
2) When she "runs" when you get on, don't let her. Use a one rein stop if need be, don't just pull back.
Now, to get her to move, you have to MAKE her move. Just get her feet moving. When she freezes, that just bad news bears, because colts tend to explode after the freeze up.
Get her to turn, and give her your rein and give a cluck, or a kiss, and a squeeze. Don't worry about where she goes, just worry about going.
Are you in a roundpen? If not, find one! Because at this point, all you should be concerned with is her carrying your weight at a walk and moving out, turning a bit, stopping and backing a few steps.
Reward her after even the smallest steps. Like, if you can get her walking for a few steps, praise her while she's walking and she'll soon get the point that walking out is a good thing, because right now, she isnt too sure about it all.
1) i have friends who break horses for a living and i email them for advise. and i work with horses at a barn and i watch my boss break horses.
2) we are in a round pen
3) when she stops all she does is yawn, i have been on her and she accept my weight
4) you can get on and off with out her moving
5) we try to get her to move by making her turn and giving a light kick and making the clicking noise i use whe i lunge her.
How old is your filly? I will be breaking my filly too, come summer, or maybe next summer, depends on if she is good to go. She is lazy too, but I make her move her feet on the ground. She has problems with lunging sometimes, but I still make her move her feet, and she will eventually listen.
Try ground driving her. Do more ground work. Get her to respect you.
I am still going through this with my filly, and she is getting better.
She is comig three and very big! I have ground work with her and she does great on the ground just on the saddle she just wants to stand. I also have no idea how to go out ground drivin.
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Emailing someone for advice is not the same as someone standing there telling you what to do or what you should be doing.
Without seeing what is going on, I can't really say much.
How long do you work with her at one time? Young horses have a really short attention span and working with them for more that 20 minutes at a time does more harm than good.
Get a professional/trainer/people who know what's up about breaking horses out to watch, or out to ride the horse for you.
Breaking a horse is delicate work and if you don't do it right the first time, you'll spend so much time fixing all of the mistakes you've made.
I agree with QHriderKE. Reward her smallest try. If squeezing and clucking don't work, give her a smack with the reins or a crop. Just be ready for her to take off. Many will the first time. Repeat and repeat, squeeze, cluck, spank. She will get better and start without having to spank.
When a horse gets "stuck", the easiest way to unstick them is yielding their rear or turning. Once they take a step, ask again for forward motion.
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usandpets, I would have suggested the smacking part... but I get wary of suggesting it to just anyone without knowing how well the ride or any details about them or the horse...
Okay, so here's my best bet on what's happening. You have her confused all to heck. You get on her and ask her for forward. She obliges, just not at the speed you wanted (not all horses know how to walk under saddle at first, there are horses who have to run before they walk). You stop her immediately. So, she figures that those "forward cues" you were giving her weren't actually asking her to go forward, but she doesn't know what you are asking for, so she tunes you out and just stands there.
IMHO, she's probably a very good natured horse. If that's so, you should be very thankful because one without such a tolerant nature would have hurt you long before now.
I agree with QH rider, you should really get some experienced hands-on help. With horses that are refusing to move, for whatever reason, their reaction when they finally come unstuck can be very unpredictable. Some of them will do nothing more than move off. Others blow up. Still others rear up/flip over. If you don't know the exact right moment to push and the right moment to back off, or how to get them unstuck without forcing their hand, you could really get hurt.
So, for that reason, I'm not going to offer any advice beyond get some help.
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