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Chevylover96 02-28-2013 12:27 PM

Fractured pastern.....
Ok so after my new horse Winter has been off for the past week or 2 I decided it was time to email her old owner who raced her (standardbred racing), he wasn't the guy I bought her from, but the owner before that. He also just so happens to be a vet. When I purchased her I was told "she was retired because she was too slow". Come to find out that isn't true at all. I emailed the old owner and told him that she's been off, and I was wondering why she had been retired. Well he said, "She fractured RH proximal pastern (P1). She would need it injected periodically to make her sound. Hope that helps.". So what I'm wondering is what does this mean for her future? (She's only 4 by the way). Even with injections will she be jumping sound? I bought her with intentions on making her into a jumper, and was told she'd make a decent jumper, now 2 months later I don't even know if he should be ridden... (I bought her unbroke, and now she w/t/c most of the time). She wasn't lame in anyway when I got her. I haven't ridden for about a week, hand walking and stall rest, but I just don't know what I should do. I know her old owner (one i purchased her from) would take her back, and because she has great conformation she was going to make her into a broad mare. But then I'd be back to square one (no horse) and miss yet again another horse. (I've already had to leave my lease of over 2 years due to lameness issues). But we already have such a great bond, but I can't afford more than one horse, and I don't know of she'll ever be truly sound for what I want... Do these things ever heal all the way? How much do the injections usually run? I don't know if I have to money for such a high mantenance horse, injections, expensive feed (she's an extremely hard keeper). Now the feed I could handle, the injections? Let me know what I should do, what you would do, and will she ever be truly sound for jumping with top care? Thanks...
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smrobs 02-28-2013 12:33 PM

I'm sorry, but if she's having soundness issues on the flat due to an old injury like that, then she'll likely never be sound enough for jumping...even with the injections, which I'm sure aren't cheap.

DraftyAiresMum 02-28-2013 12:43 PM

I agree with smrobs (can't think of a time when I haven't, actually lol). If she's not sound on the flat, there's no way she'll ever be sound enough to jump.

One of my friends had a similar situation with an OTTB she bought. He was six and she was told he was "too slow" and "didn't want to race anymore". Every time she went to ride him, he came up lame. Without fail. Finally had the vet out to check him and turned out he'd fractured his hip on the track and it had never been taken care of. He is now an eight-year-old pasture ornament.
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existentialpony 02-28-2013 12:44 PM

I know it might be an emotional and riding/training inconvenience, but I would absolutely get my money back for this mare (which you deserve at the very least-- you've put a little training on her anyway) and look for another horse. There are plenty of wonderful horses out there that will be willing, eager and sound to jump!

Cherie 02-28-2013 01:53 PM

Cut your losses now. She is not a suitable prospect for jumping and will be a 'money pit' and after months of training, could re-fracture it and take a bad fall or go completely lame.

I know 'throw-away' horses and 'rescues' are plentiful and cheap right now, but the cheapest horse you can buy is a good prospect that will pass a PPE, from a reputable breeder. I would not buy a performance prospect unless the breeder or owner would give me permission to contact their Vet and release full records on the horse. Your initial purchase price is the smallest part of your investment in any performance prospect.

I hope there was a 'dealer' in between the original owner and the person that sold her to you to jump. If they knew about her previous problems, it may be difficult to get your money back, but I would sure try.

themacpack 02-28-2013 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by smrobs (Post 1916207)
I'm sorry, but if she's having soundness issues on the flat due to an old injury like that, then she'll likely never be sound enough for jumping...even with the injections, which I'm sure aren't cheap.

Not to mention that, cost aside, consider the cost to the horse - using injections to prop her up enough to be able to jump is only going to cause further damage to her in the long run, wich is beyond unfair to the horse.

blush 02-28-2013 02:29 PM

Did you not get a PPE on this horse before you got her?!
If you intended to use her as a jumping mount, a PPE would be at the top of my list to avoid things like this.
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Chevylover96 02-28-2013 02:29 PM

I only found out about this this morning, so you can imagine how I feel. This past week I was thinking that its been her back, and she just needed to see a chiropractor and saddle fitter. I never thought for a second that I wouldn't be able to ride her again. Now I'm not sure what to do. I've thought about giving up riding for her, but I don't know if that is very realistic, especially to keep her at an expensive riding barn to be a pasture ornament.... Even though she hates the other horses and doesn't really like being outside to start with... Would she be sound enough to be a broad mare? The person who sold her to me was going to breed her with an Arabian to make a nice little sport horse, she might take her back, but I don't know. At this point I know that jumping is not going to happen, and riding is unlikely. So I don't know what I should do. I've been looking at ads today to see what's around, but I feel pretty guilty for even looking, when she means so much to me already. I now know that I shouldn't trust anybody, should of known. Learned my lesson for sure!
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smrobs 02-28-2013 02:50 PM

Only a vet could say whether she would be sound enough to breed. BUT, a broken leg may or may not indicate a conformational problem like light bones that really shouldn't be bred. So, I wouldn't breed her even if she was deemed sound enough for it.

I'm sorry this happened to you, especially since you have already become so attached to her, but she won't live up to your goals. If she has a really good mind and calm temperament suitable for beginning riders, you might be able to put some experience on her (expose her to a lot of scary stuff and desensitize her) and sell her as a beginner friendly horse only suitable for light riding.

waresbear 02-28-2013 02:57 PM

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This thread is good reminder for everyone to get a PPE even if the horse is free unless you don't mind ending up with a pasture puff or putting the horse down. Cherie put it best, cheapest part of acquiring a horse is the purchase price.
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