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Toucan 02-28-2013 11:37 PM

How, when & what do you reprimand for?
 
I know it's a pretty broad question, but what do you let them get away with & what will you absolutely not tolerate - both on the ground & under saddle? apart from the obvious biting, kicking, bucking, bolting etc.
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Nightside 02-28-2013 11:41 PM

I don't let them crowd me when I am feeding. I carry a stick and they've been bopped with the stick enough to know, you don't mess with the stick!

I also don't let them rush gates. I'll admit that I am lazy and my horses know the routine. They come and go when I call them so I don't bother to halter and walk them individually. But they do have to stop and wait at the gate, usually me standing by it with the stick again, but my arm works just as well 99% of the time.
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Toucan 02-28-2013 11:45 PM

Yep, I now too carry a whip at feed time - give them an inch & they take a mile.
But I really can't stand creeping - it is really annoying!
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tinyliny 02-28-2013 11:49 PM

Baulking. Walking like they are too lazy to stand up .
stepping into my space. putting their teeth on me, even softly.
running through the bit at a canter or gallop. crowding me at the gate.
pinning ears at me.

Laffeetaffee 03-01-2013 12:42 AM

I basically question what a boss horse wouldn't tolerate, and that's what I don't tolerate. So I don't tolerate horses walking in front when I lead, I don't tolerate them stepping into my space without permission, I don't tolerate them nibbling (what a lot of people call "kissing"), no turning and walking away when I'm working with them, no head-shoving me around, no crowding at the gate when I'm coming in, and no turning their butt towards me when I'm free-lunging. The key and hard part is knowing when they're doing it or about to do it because timing is everything. If you let a horse do something and then wait 3 seconds before discipline, it's not going to have much of an affect. Or if you only discipline sometimes, it's not going to stick.

Foxhunter 03-01-2013 02:14 AM

I stop the very minor things like a horse moving in the stable when I have told it to stand. Moving when tacking up or rugging them (this is all done when they are in the stable and I rarely ever tie them) I correct with voice or, by using a finger against their chest.

They have to stand back when I am feeding - there is no need for a stick, body language will do it.

I will not tollerate door banging and that gets an 'angry' reaction from me. I will stop what I am doing and go into attack mode at the culprit.

I never mind if a horse walks forward as I mount, several reasons for this. First, I worked in racing for many years and when legged up the horse was always walking. Secondly it is easier on the horse's back and thirdly it is easier for me now I am older and hips are stiffer!

I Europe horses are taught to lead so their shoulders are level with yours. I do not consider this disrespectful nor that they are taking leadership. I positively hate a horse being behind me when leading, you cannot see what it is going to do and if something happens behind it could slam into you.

beverleyy 03-01-2013 02:54 AM

I don't let them all up in my space when I am feeding. If either of them want their food before I am out of the stall I'm just going to stay in there even longer until I decide they can now eat. Both my mares have their moments where they want their dinner when they want it, but generally they're good about it and wait until I "say" they can eat.

Probably my biggest no-no is rushing past me. Rarely happens but when it does, holy cow watch out, I will not be a happy camper. Usually happens when my mares are the last in and they want dinner NOW. These usually wind up being the days I stay in the stall until I feel they're keeping out of my space and until they actually deserve their dinner.

On that same note, I won't tolerate door kicking or being a general nuisance in the stall (again, generally this is at feeding time). Both girls are usually pretty good about this, but there has been the odd time where I am sure I've gotten looks from boarders for doing the notorious yell/growl at my horses.:lol:

SorrelHorse 03-01-2013 05:15 AM

Any single act of disrespect. Ever. That includes not only biting, bucking, crowding me, but also things as simple as reaching for treats or rubbing on my when I take the bridle off. Everything had better be "Yes Ma'am" or I tend to get a little bit mean and bossy.

Iseul 03-01-2013 05:25 AM

I'm going to be back for this..I just had a huge conversation with myself on this..but it's only 05.30 here and my mind wandered as soon as I saw this post, lol.
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CowboyBob 03-01-2013 10:33 AM

The list is way longer of what I don't allow then what I allow a horse to do. When I am riding they go where I say when i say, they cross water not jump it. THEY DO NOT EAT when I am riding I have long arms I can reach up and will pull grass out of the horses mouth. They will stand when I am getting on or off (no walkie). when i tell theym to stop they stop and stand (if thats 3second or 3 hours) until i say its time to walk again. I have even make horses that are stopping to pee keep walking the first time they try to stop and go. Basiclly if I have trained them to do it and I know they can then they better.
On the ground, they need to stand to be caught, my space is my space not their space. I AM NOT A SCRATCHING POST, I will scrathc you fore head for you but that doesn't mean you can scratch it on me. You will pick up your feet and hold them for me you will not lean on me when I am trimming your feet. I'm sure there is more but this is the biggies.

This is not how I train this is what I train for there is a big difference.


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