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SouthernTrailsGA 03-03-2013 06:50 PM

Social Security and Medicare are Next?
 
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President Barack Obama raised anew the issue of cutting entitlements such as Medicare and Social Security as a way out of damaging budget cuts
Obama renews budget offer to cut social safety nets - Yahoo! Finance

Is Obama serious?

But they are not Entitlements unless you never paid into the system, Working people have paid into SS and medicare their whole working lives.

And when people need them most after retirement this nut wants to cut them?
Cut SS and Medicare to someone who has never paid into the system, but do not cut from those that have paid into the system!

When will the insanity stop?

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PaintHorseMares 03-03-2013 07:00 PM

I didn't see any new news in that article. Best to not try and predict the future in Washington, Imho.
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Allison Finch 03-03-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernTrailsGA (Post 1920979)
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Obama renews budget offer to cut social safety nets - Yahoo! Finance

Is Obama serious?

But they are not Entitlements unless you never paid into the system, Working people have paid into SS and medicare their whole working lives.

And when people need them most after retirement this nut wants to cut them?
Cut SS and Medicare to someone who has never paid into the system, but do not cut from those that have paid into the system!

When will the insanity stop?

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Wait a minute...it is the Republicans demanding cuts to social security! Obama is simply willing to offer a compromise to get to the table?

GOP demands Social Security cuts, setting back fiscal talks - Salon.com
How are YOU interpreting this? Only Obama wants to cut SS? Since when?

SouthernTrailsGA 03-03-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Allison Finch (Post 1921002)
Wait a minute...it is the Republicans demanding cuts to social security! Obama is simply willing to offer a compromise to get to the table?

GOP demands Social Security cuts, setting back fiscal talks - Salon.com
How are YOU interpreting this? Only Obama wants to cut SS? Since when?

Wonder why that one did not make the regular news?

If the republicans plan cuts to something the working people have paid for, they are nuts too!
Obama should not go along with proposals that are nuts. :-)

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Allison Finch 03-03-2013 07:24 PM

Southern, that has always been the GOP plan from the get-go. Obama said absolutely not up until now. He is offering a compromise to get their butts to the table. Sad, that it is the folks who have paid their way taking it in the.....

Now, Medicare should be a no, too. However, Medicaid needs a HUGE overhaul, IMO.

SouthernTrailsGA 03-03-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Allison Finch (Post 1921031)
Sad, that it is the folks who have paid their way taking it in the.....

Now, Medicare should be a no, too.

However, Medicaid needs a HUGE overhaul, IMO.

100% agree on both of those :-)

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oobiedoo 03-03-2013 09:28 PM

It's congress and like Obama said on TV Friday he can't force them to do anything. They are elected by the people. What I wanna know is how do the people fire them now. Well at least how do the people now get a say in what's going on when they're making all these choices that most likely won't affect their lives in any big way but can mean the loss of jobs, therefore food, housing and medical care for the majority of citizens that aren't independently wealthy. Don't think you're immune to homelessness because you've had the same job at the same company for 10+ years making 50,000+ a year. It can change tomorrow.

LoveMyDrummerBoy 03-03-2013 09:33 PM

I have trouble when the president is blamed entirely for things that are going through congress. Regardless of the issue, it is never only Obama, or any other president that has cycled through the White House.

I don't really want to plaster my political ideologies all over the internet, so this is as far as I would go, but I think that this is important to note.

tinyliny 03-03-2013 09:50 PM

I hate to say it, but there is likely no way to go forward to any kind of fiscal stability in the second half of this decade without cutting those two programs, and medicaid. With the baby boomers hitting old age, there is no way we can finance all of them (including myself) and pay our national debt without making cuts to our expenditures AND closing loopholes that the wealthy use to avoid taxes. I am a liberal, for the most part, but I think that it is unavoidable that all government social services to the elderly and poor will have to be reduced. The last thing we want to do is to reduce our support of the young. Education and infrastructure must take top priority to ensure the health of this nation in its' future. The people entering retirement and old age now will not be able to live with the same supports that their parents had. I just don't see how that is possible. Sucks, big time.

Missy May 03-03-2013 10:06 PM

Idk, the average person will not get out of SS what they paid in. Not what actual dollar amount they paid in, which is not how anything on the planet is calculated, but by the ordinary method of "x amount interested compounded by x duration". SS should have a huge surplus - the reason it does not has nothing to do w babyboomers or anyone that has paid into it. So the term "cut" is a bit misleading, "take" is a bit more accurate. Whereas, "cut" would be accurate for welfare recipients.


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