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QH Lover 03-14-2013 09:53 PM

Lagging behind when leading...ughhh
Fancy is really annoying to lead just because she DOESNT COME with me! She has manners, doesn't jig or run around. She always stands still, but the problem is she never ventures far out of standing still :-| She'll never come with me...I watched Warwick Schiller's video about leading horses that look everywhere, which is what Fancy does. He says to walk with authority a different way so that the horse knows that they have to pay attention to know where you are going next. I've been doing this, but she just refuses to pay attention to me. First of all, when she does come, it takes her forever to stop staring at whatever is taking her attention away from me, and when she does she lags behind and doesn't catch up! It gets really annoying. She also vacations a ton. We'll be standing and she starts to look at something and WILL NOT bring her attention back to me except if I walk the opposite way. Sorry if I'm doing anything wrong, I'm new to all this training (only 13) :oops:

Thunderspark 03-15-2013 12:48 AM

do a search for Clinton Anderson on Youtube, watch some of his videos.....that might help you out on what to do.....good luck!

Mochachino 03-15-2013 12:52 AM

I agree with Thunderspark. Also carry lead rope in right hand and dressage whip in left pointed backwards. Tap her with the dressage whip to get her attention and to keep her with you when leading. She might just need a small tap, maybe more.

tinyliny 03-15-2013 02:09 AM

When people say a horse just won't pay attention to them, then they just haven't been interesting enough to be worth the horse's attention.

If you were to dance a jig , or kick up a bunch of dirt, or whip a dressage whip back and forth real quick , Fancy would give you her rapt attention . . .
for about 10 seconds. Then she'd go elsewhere. you have to remind her to keep her attention on you. Do what it takes. after that, you watch her out of the corner of your eye and the instant her attention goes elsewhere, start to get it back.
Usually horses attention leave YOU when you leave THEM. you must discipline yourself to pay more attention to what her body language is saying and catch her attention before it strays hard away from you. The sooner, the easier it is to bring it back.

Palomine 03-15-2013 08:57 AM

Walk with purpose more. Have more attitude when leading too.

Also, vary up what you are doing, in terms of speed, and stop dead and just stand there.

It is not normal for horse to be "gazing at you and focused on you" either. While they should pay attention, it is not like they are waiting for you to wax eloquent on the state of affairs in the UK, they don't need to be focused on you 100% most of the time, while they are hanging around waiting to see what you are going to do next.

TL has right idea with lash whip, trailing behind to give horse idea to come up. It could also be this horse has been lead this way, as many western people lead like this. And also use a voice command, come up, or a click, but something to get her to focus on you, and move up. And make sure you are not changing mind from time to time, and stay consistent.

You need to get the horse leading both ways though, if that was case.

And don't look at her, when she is lagging behind, as that will slow one, or lock one too.

Make sure your back is straight, and you appear businesslike too, as horses respond to that as sign that you are in charge.

amberly 03-15-2013 09:17 AM

My horse also drags behind me and gets sidetracked at butterflies, haha!

For being behind me, I make sure I have an extra lead in my hand. when ever he gets behind me, I toss the lead behind me - without looking back, you always want to look forward and keep your same pace - so it hits his shoulder. Usually at the first one he comes up to where I want him, then he drags back again. Just keep repeating the process over and over. Horses rely on repetition to learn. Do something once and they didn't learn much.

For distractions:
When he isn't paying attention, I wiggle the leadrope. If he still doesn't come back to me, I wave the leadrope harder. if he still isn't back to me (usually he is by now) then I take me whole and to wave the leadrope to get his attentions. Make sure that there is no hardware on the halter though - you don't want it hitting his face and hurting him.

Hope this helped!! I hear that clint is good, but also you should try looking into Buck Brannaman.

Crescent 03-15-2013 09:22 AM

I do Clintons natural horsemanship and what I do is just give my guy heck with the lead rope (only needed to do it once) and then he relized I was serious and now he leads great. I also carry a lunging whip and if he lags I just swat him in the side a bit. sounds harsh but it really works. might help to look it up on youtube

ButtInTheDirt 03-15-2013 09:32 AM

My friend's horse was like that, and it was a problem when his withers are at the same height as my head. (My friend is even shorter, so I definitely wanted to correct this problem.) I took this problem into the arena to work on. My first lesson with him was just leading, because he was so dead and not paying attention and would spook and plop right over you. What I would do is when I was turning spin around and disengage his bum. I did this whenever I was turning, or even at random when he wasn't paying attention. I constantly switched things up so he knew that it was either pay attention, or I'm going to get your butt. He is a million times softer and much better about leading. With my own gelding when he gets lazy, all I do is take a carrot stick while I am walking and reach around with my left arm and touch him with the string. I usually don't even have to do that, and he gets the message pretty quick.

So just remember, in the beginning, or with any horse that isn't paying attention or is bored or lacking respect, don't just expect them to listen - give them a reason to. I make my horses behave and they still respect me. I could take just the respect, but my horses still run up to me in the pasture and enjoy being around me. You have to be their leader, and there is no in between; you are or you aren't. Others have given good advice as well, so I'm sure in a few lessons you'll have a horse who realizes it is less work being at your side than anywhere else. Good luck. :)

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