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countrylove 03-16-2013 06:02 PM

missing frog!?
 
I just got a call from the ranch... my mare has had thrush on and off all winter and has been treated regularly but it keeps coming back. 3 days ago she had her entire frog attatched fine cause I checked her feet myself. The BO just called to tell me that they noticed her entire frog was gone today! They used her for a lesson today and she did great, no lameness or favoring at all. In my horse years I've never seen or heard of this. I'm an hour from the ranch and have to wait for my SO to get home before I can even get out there to see it for myself. What causes this? And what does it mean? What do I do!? The ranch farrier (who I don't even use anymore, long story) says its fine just treat the thrush and the frog will grow back. I'm freaking out and have the vet on speed dial, ready to call like now. Please help!? Thanks and sorry Im freaking out :(
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waresbear 03-16-2013 06:06 PM

She might've had something in there irritating under the frog, like a pebble, then the thing sloughs off and a new one grows back, quite quickly too. However, it's best to get a professional opinion on this, I would if it were my horse.

countrylove 03-16-2013 06:18 PM

I will be getting a professional opinion but it won't be for another 2 hours. In the mean time I'm freaking out like a first time mother LoL if I had the car this wouldn't even be a thread but I'm stuck at home worrying until the hubby gets off work. The only picture they got is too poor of quality to tell me anything so I'm left to ponder their descriptions. I got out my vet book and Googled missing frog. My best judgement as a vet tech is that it's caused by the thrush. I've just never dealt with anything like it because I've always lived in very dry places and thrush never got this bad. Its been a very frustrating winter fighting thrush. As soon as I get it under control and stop using the thrush meds, it pops back up. Its been non stop thrush buster everyday for months now :(

Has anyone else experienced this? I feel like an awful owner right about now...
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countrylove 03-16-2013 06:20 PM

Here is the pic they sent me... the green is a thrush medication

http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/...ps63b892f2.jpg
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Copperhead 03-16-2013 08:01 PM

I can't really make much out of the photo since the medication was applied, but it looks like the frog is still there? Unless its that area near the bulbs, but I can't tell whether its missing or if the light is hitting it oddly.

Honestly, I wouldn't freak out too much. I'd go check and see myself and make an educated decision on what to do. If she wasn't in any pain during the lesson, she isn't in any pain now.

I use peroxide for thrush. It attacks the bacteria and dries out the hoof immediately. I've only used it 3 days in a row because of how effective it is. You don't want to over-use it because it can dry the hoof out too much. I put peroxide in a squirt bottle and use it that way. Much cheaper than Thrush Buster and much more effective.

Spotted 03-16-2013 08:14 PM

Are you sure she didn't just shed it ? Most horses shed 2x a year, some times more, but most owners never notice.

Poseidon 03-16-2013 08:50 PM

I assume it's warming up where you live and any snow is melting? Because that's a natural trigger for them to shed their frog. Completely normal. My farrier usually cuts mine mares' out if they're loose, but if it's between trims, I can pull off chunks as they detach.

Between frog shedding and sole exfoliating, their hooves look like they're just falling apart, but it's all good.

countrylove 03-16-2013 09:09 PM

She definitely has thrush because we've been fighting it all winter. I researched the shedding and 50% say they shed the whole frog and the other 50% says they only shed small layers. Some say they don't shed at all. IDK its all very confusing and controversial. And yes the weather is warming up and the snow has officially melted.
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countrylove 03-16-2013 09:11 PM

I know the picture is horrible. Its the only one I have and I am just now able to head out there. I'll update when I know more but please keep the advice and any similar stories coming :)
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countrylove 03-17-2013 02:48 PM

http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/...psbc36daf7.jpg
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/...ps85c27db6.jpg
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3bb464dd.jpg

All we can do it keep it dry and clean...
Its obviously sore cause she doesn't want it messed with but she isn't limping or favoring it. Sorry about the pics. It was the best I could get.

Treatment plan: clean daily with bleach solution in a spray bottle, pick hooves twice a day to keep mud out, treat daily with thrush buster and wait and watch...
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