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morganandme 03-17-2013 01:06 PM

Teaching horses manners!!
 
My horse is broke broke broke but has no manners!!!!! She will Waller you all over when standing beside you...or when ur getting on her she will walk circles around you!! When ur on her she won't stand still! I need help! I've tried many of things! Please help!!!

amberly 03-17-2013 01:12 PM

Groundwork. You need to do tons of groundwork with him.

Groundwork teaches the horse to pay attention to you and also give you more respect.

You should never get on a horse that doesn't listen to you on ground. If you can't control her from the ground, there is NO WAY you will be able to control her on her back.

You both need respect with each other, you need to be the leader, she needs to respect you, and you need to watch what she is saying.

If she doesn't listen, you either asked the question wrong or asked the wrong question.

amberly 03-17-2013 01:13 PM

Aslo, look into some of Buck Brannaman's work.

Thunderspark 03-17-2013 01:33 PM

I agree, ground work, do lots of backing, changing directions while lunging......she's not respecting or listening to you. I follow Clinton Anderson's methods.....you can find some vids on Youtube that may help you.....

tinyliny 03-17-2013 01:47 PM

Broke, broke , broke? what do you mean by that?

a horse will usually display under saddle pretty much the same attitude and behaviors that it shows on the ground (with rider on the ground, I mean)

toto 03-17-2013 02:03 PM

She wallerin cause you let her do it.. make her get out of your space!

How do you mount up.and what is she doin if she aint turning circles? Backing up?

morganandme 03-17-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tinyliny (Post 1941799)
Broke, broke , broke? what do you mean by that?

a horse will usually display under saddle pretty much the same attitude and behaviors that it shows on the ground (with rider on the ground, I mean)

Put it this way...once you on her and get warmed up she's fine before that tho she is antsy won't stad still or nothing( I Lunge her to sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't )

morganandme 03-17-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by toto (Post 1941821)
She wallerin cause you let her do it.. make her get out of your space!

How do you mount up.and what is she doin if she aint turning circles? Backing up?

That's all she does tuen circles don't back up tho

toto 03-17-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by morganandme (Post 1941908)
That's all she does tuen circles don't back up tho


She back up when you are mounted, or go forward.. or keep turning circles?

Laffeetaffee 03-17-2013 04:12 PM

A good way to keep a horse standing still when you're on his back is to keep a horse standing still when you're on the ground.

If she doesn't stand quietly for you when you're just standing there, she's not going to stand quietly for you when you're moving. Horses stand still for us because they're waiting for us to tell them what to do. If a horse moves around, then he's not paying attention to the handler because he's thinking about how much he'd like to move around and get away, not focusing on what the handler wants him to do.

The best way I've taught horses to do this is I teach them what to do when I'm not doing anything, and that's relax. If I tell a horse to back up and he backs up, then I drop all tension and develop a "relax" posture which is resting my hands on top of the training stick, relaxing my whole body and looking calmly at his chest or neck. When they relax, I let them stay that way for about 4 or 5 seconds, then I give them another command like hindquarter yeild, or I lead, then I stop when they do the right thing and I relax. The horse begins to learn when to move and when to relax, and they don't find a reason to move because I tell them what to move and when to move.

If you give the "relax" cue, you should be able to walk around the horse and do whatever you want because you haven't given the horse a cue to do anything else. This means she should stand still while you drink some water, stand still while you text, or stand still while you mount. If I'm standing with a horse and he decides to walk away, then I swing my stick and get him moving until he acts like he wants to stop, then I let him stop. If I'm mounting a horse and he decides to move, then I step down and start lunging him, but I do it quickly. Foot on ground, point and send him off, so he learns to associate moving with doing a lot of work. This reinforces the idea that the horse only moves when you tell him to move, and if he moves without you telling him, then you're going to always make that movement hard work under your command.


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