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Dreamcatcher Arabians 03-18-2013 03:44 PM

OLWS: Some Folks Just Don't Get It
 
I got around to calling the stallion owner today, so I could get the breeding certificate for Honey Boo Boo's colt. She's very nice BUT.........

S.O.: "So what did she have?"
Me: "She had a lovely little chestnut colt."
S.O.: "Any spots?"
Me: "Nope, he's a darling little breed stock. Haven't found a single spot, including when I turned him over and checked his tummy."
S.O.: "Well, you can have a re-breed for $150 plus shipping, if you have me ship."

Me (after I pick my chin up off the floor): "Ummmm, well, thank you that's very kind, but I won't be breeding back."

Are you kidding? He's an OLWS stallion who is also N/H for HYPP, so linebred to Conclusive it ain't funny. I wouldn't breed a known N/N mare who also doesn't carry the OLWS gene to him, let alone one who DOES for God's sake.

GRRRRRRRRR! Ok, vent over..........WHEW!

BarrelracingArabian 03-18-2013 03:48 PM

Thank god for people like you that don take the risk though. Its all about the money for many people which is sad but atleast you know you're saving one life and preventing unnecessary heart ache for one baby, mom and owner.

NdAppy 03-18-2013 04:03 PM

Have you sent in the colt's test yet for HYPP? I'm just curious if he dodge that as well. :-)

SunnyDraco 03-18-2013 04:05 PM

Some people don't get it with the dangers of OLWS and HYPP, and I think HYPP is even worse than OLWS since a single gene carrier can be effected. Some people, they either don't understand or just don't care.

Dreamcatcher Arabians 03-18-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NdAppy (Post 1944881)
Have you sent in the colt's test yet for HYPP? I'm just curious if he dodge that as well. :-)

Not yet. I'm waiting for him to get some tail hair. Right now it's still short enough that I don't want to try to pull it. He's barely a month old so I'm not in a huge rush especially since he hasn't had any symptoms. He'll get it done soon though.

CLaPorte432 03-18-2013 06:42 PM

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*headdesk*

How unfortunate for those horses...
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MacabreMikolaj 03-18-2013 09:47 PM

Thank you!!! I have a thread in genetics about some idiot krazy kolor breeder selling OLWS mares in foal to OLWS stallions with no disclaimers. And when I mention it, freaks out on me about how shes aware of the danger and is fine with it. And then threatens to sue me for slander when I tell my friends on FB about it.

The stupid part is she's got about 6 colored stallions who could be negative for OLWS, so there's not even a remotely good reason for breeding two blatant carriers together.

I am so sick of krazy kolor breeders.
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Dreamcatcher Arabians 03-18-2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj (Post 1949441)
Thank you!!! I have a thread in genetics about some idiot krazy kolor breeder selling OLWS mares in foal to OLWS stallions with no disclaimers. And when I mention it, freaks out on me about how shes aware of the danger and is fine with it. And then threatens to sue me for slander when I tell my friends on FB about it.

The stupid part is she's got about 6 colored stallions who could be negative for OLWS, so there's not even a remotely good reason for breeding two blatant carriers together.

I am so sick of krazy kolor breeders.
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Basically, they are accepting of the 1 in 4 chance, each breeding, that they will have a dead foal. Since I only breed one or two foals a year, and might even go 2 or 3 years without breeding any, I'm not willing to accept the risk for my foals. Since it is an very uncomfortable death, and no way to find out if the foal is OLWS without letting it get that uncomfortable, I just don't feel like I can be that callus. I suppose if you breed 40 or 50 foals/year and lose 4 or 5 of them, you can just write it off without a lot of hurt emotions but I just can't.

I lost a foal this year due to a colic and cried for a week. My mare colicked badly this winter and we pulled her through it after a week at the vet hospital. A couple days after she came home, she aborted her foal and it just killed me to find that poor little thing out in the pasture.

I cannot imagine doing something deliberately that could end up in losing a beautiful foal and doing it year after year after year. I was THRILLED to see that Honey's foal had very little white on him, that told me immediately that he wasn't OLWS. Since he's going to be gelded, it won't matter if he carries the gene or not, but since his sire is also N/H for HYPP he'll be tested to see if he got that gene or not because it could make a difference in how he's cared for. At this point, I haven't seen any signs of HYPP in the colt, and I'm praying we dodged that bullet too. So, NO, I would not like to re-breed to that same stallion. I'll find another that doesn't have such crap genetic odds stacking against the foal.

Glynnis 03-19-2013 03:45 PM

It never ceases to amaze me. Pregnancy by itself has risk enough, why complicate that even further by adding OLWS to the mix?

WSArabians 03-19-2013 05:04 PM

Gotta love people who will risk anything for a buck.


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