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BreannaMarie 03-22-2013 09:01 AM

training a WP horse for jumping
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my horse isnt really a Western pleasure horse, my 4h leader said he was poss. trained for it though because of his low headset, in 4h Day does speed, reining, getting into cowing(sorting, boxong, cutting). and i sometime ride in english just for fun at home but we dont show in it, my friends and i ride together and their horses are pro. trained for jumping. i would like to try it myself it seems very fun, not for showing or competeing just for fun at home. how would i trian my horse to jump, he does it on his own really, he follows the others over the logs on trails and ect. but id like to train him to accually jump on his own without following the others, how would i do that??? im not sure what breed Day is, i got him from a guy who knows nothing about horse, i was told he looks thoroghbred, arabian, spotted saddle horse....... im not sure, if i cant use him for jumping i dont care, i just thought it would be something fun to do.

DancingArabian 03-22-2013 09:46 AM

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You still need a trainer, even if you're not showing. A trainer will show you and your horse how to jump correctly and safely. A trainer will find holes in your riding and show you how to fix them. It's too easy to develop bad and dangerous habits on your own when trying to train something you yourself don't know. It would be like trying to teach someone Spanish just because you can figure out the menu at a Mexican restaurant - except there's stuff hidden in the menu that could really hurt you.
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BreannaMarie 03-22-2013 11:22 AM

yes i understand that. my friends are helping me alot, theyve rode english since they first started rideing at, well jessi was 7 when she started. so for awhile and my 4h leader is helping me to. i dont need my horse pro. trained its just something i thought i would try because it seems fun. i know how to ride in english its just getting my horse to jump when i want him to, he will only do it when he wants to or when my friends are riding with me.

DancingArabian 03-22-2013 11:34 AM

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You still need a trainer for what you want to do. You don't have to send him away or have the trainer full time but you definitely need lessons with a jumping trainer. I'm not sure what you consider to be professionally trained, but you need proper instruction from someone. Your horse is already starting to act unsafe with the jumping and that will only get worse.
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BreannaMarie 03-22-2013 12:06 PM

unsafe???? how????
por. trained- well my 4h leader is a pro. trainer, hes part of the NRCHA but he doesnt do english, however his daughter does and im learning from her. i still go to my moms friends once in a while and she helps me to. my friends horses where all sent away to be trained.

like i said before i dont need help with the riding part, i just want to know how to get my horse to jump when i want him to. not just when he wants to.
and its not like ill be riding and he randomly jumps something, if i ask him to jump sometimes he will but sometimes he wont. he mainly wont if its just me and i dont have friends with me.

DancingArabian 03-22-2013 12:18 PM

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Rejecting a jump is not safe. That could easily cause you to get flung off right in front of the horse or onto a jump. You also dont want him to learn to refuse a jump and have him start doing that on the flat. If he's refusing, he isn't ready and probably lacks confidence in you to help jim out - if YOU havent been taught to jump then you need help too. It doesn't sound like you're an experienced jumper (no shame in that but it will be a factor in the horses behavior). Jumping is not just about getting the horse over the jump - there's a lot you have to do as a rider as well. A jumping coach will help with all that. You can take jump lessons from a coach - I don't see why your be against it. Both you and the horse have to be taught, its not something you can just do and be safe.
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BreannaMarie 03-22-2013 12:26 PM

i dont let him get away with it, i always turn him back to the jump until he goes over it. i understand what you mean now i didnt think about it that way. i havent really been "thaught" to jump but i have jumped in the past on my moms friends horses with her helping me and she said i was doing it right. im not agianst getting a trainer, i just dont want to spend money on something im just doing for fun. ill be visiting my moms friend next month and im trailering my horses there. ill see what she says about him too. thanks though.

minstrel 03-22-2013 01:59 PM

OP, it's not that we're being picky, but DA is right - you reallyshouldtake at least one lesson from a jumping trainer to teach you both what to do. You know what they say - green and green equals black and blue. And despite your western experience, you are a green jumper!

It's like me, an experienced eventer, taking my eventing horse into the sand school one day and going, you know, barrel racing looks fun... Lets set up some barrels and just run some patterns. I've very little western experience (other than riding in a western saddle) and my horse has none, although he can neck rein... Us trying to gallop round some barrels might look easy to me, but it requires training for both horse and rider that I would admit I know nothing about. See what I mean? So be safe and learn properly, so u don't put u and ur horse off!

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