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Faustinblack 03-22-2013 05:32 PM

Feeding the endurance horse
 
What do you feed your endurance horse? I hear a lot of mentions of triple crown feed. Worth the money?
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Joe4d 03-22-2013 05:41 PM

high fat with good omega 3 ratio, low protien, lower carbs. Triple crown has several different feeds, and I wouldnt consider triple crown a high priced brand. If I was going Triple crown I would choose tipple crown training, Id prefer a lower protien, though. then feed grass hay, not alfalfa.

Faustinblack 03-22-2013 07:37 PM

I don't feed alfalfa, and my boys are on five acres, but with winter and everything there is not much grass
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Joe4d 03-23-2013 07:30 AM

regular old grass hay, soaked beet pulp and a high fat low protien low carb feed.
Fat burns at a lower temperature than sugar. All about heat management in endurance horses.
Also people loose sight of the fact that horses arnt like us, and they arnt like dogs. They are not carnivores. They DONOT need tons of protien. People think protein equals building muscles Soooo the more the merrier. So feed makers respond with what sells. est food in the world wont do a manufacturer any good if it is left on the shelf. People like to see high protien numbers so thats what they put in the bag. All you are doing is creating rich, high amonia pee. While not huge deal on a casual horse. Makes a big difference in endurance. Extra unneeded protein requires large amnounts of water to process and flush. Endurance is all about hydration and heat. So feeding high protein can make it harder to keep horse hydrated. Feed I feed is 11/6 fat to protein. I supplement BCAA, a pasture multivitamin, and electrolytes, depending on weather and rides. But I'm just some smukatelly bob on the internet with a few completions and several pulls, I know alot about what NOT to do. But I do alot of reading and research. Go to the source Check out the research by Dr Garlinghouse. Pretty much considered the guru of all things food and endurance related.
Particularly good is beating the metabolic pull, Susan E. Garlinghouse, DVM horse management articles and lectures
Susan E. Garlinghouse, DVM horse management articles and lectures

TheOtherHorse 03-23-2013 09:26 AM

Ration Balancers?
 
I am new to endurance, just tinkering with LDs and hoping to move up to a 50 this fall... and diet isn't as big a factor for LDs, but I suspect it can be for a 50, so I need to do some more research.

In the summer I usually just feed a ration balancer, plus some flax seed for extra omega 3s (and supplements if needed for that horse). I have used Triple Crown 30% protein, but I only feed 1 lb/day, so it is actually LESS total protein intake than a full serving of a low protein grain. Thoughts?

Do any endurance horses do well on a small amount of ration balancer, or do they need a full grain meal? Mine stay fat on pasture in the summer, so I have never wanted to feed more grain that time of year.

I should add that I DO add in beet pulp before/during a ride, and they always have access to either grass hay or pasture, so plenty of fiber.

Joe4d 03-23-2013 10:32 AM

no way Id feed 30% protein feed. Didnt even know they made horsefeed that high. I suspect even at that pound hitting him with that concentrated dose he's just peeing it out. I suspect most horses get enough protein from pastures with a bit of clover. The ration balancer, flax and and supps are probably fine, but if you read ingredients you'll probably end up cheaper just feeding a decent feed to begin with. Pretty much same thing I ended up with. Remember what is fed on thursday is in the gut on saturday, so thats when you want to start with the soaked beat pulp and elytes if not sooner. ALot of the elytes will also just go to waste, but your making your horse thirsty and hoping to get him to drink more. You want hydration at 100% on ride day PLUS a soaked fiber reserve in the gut. Also I dont want my horse bulking at a new taste on ride day.

Faustinblack 03-23-2013 07:12 PM

I stopped and talked to the people at my feed store. Apparently they don't make the training formula down here, but they recommended something called XTN, by FARR. Any ever use that stuff?
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Joe4d 03-23-2013 10:17 PM

looks pretty similar to the southern states Legends Performance I use. looks good, how much a bag is it ?

Faustinblack 03-23-2013 10:21 PM

25. I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. But if it works and I don't have to buy a bunch of supplements to balance out sub par feed...
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greentree 03-24-2013 01:13 PM

Just joining in this conversation, don't mean to butt in.....I started using the Legends Performance about 3 weeks ago. I cannot tell you the difference in my gelding! Granted, he had not been ridden in 8 weeks, but the last time I took him out, he was trippy and just felt weird. Not tired or slow. He actually tripped and went down on one knee on a smooth gravel trail.

Nothing else has changed, so I am attributing it to the feed change. Perhaps he was deficient in something.

Anyway, maybe this guy will get to go to a ride afterall. I had about given up on him.

we now return to your regularly scheduled program.

Nancy


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