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toto 03-23-2013 11:45 PM

overo x tobiano..
 
I am lookin at horse ads right now and i come across a mare that is said to be "overo"-- she is solid, wide blaze (not a bald face) forelegs have small 'coronet socks' and the hinds just regular socks. It shows her APHA papers, and i noticed her dam is a QH-- and sire is 'Tob/ovr'-- wouldnt that make the mare 'tovero' not overo?

Peppy Barrel Racing 03-23-2013 11:52 PM

I'd have to see the horse but unless the horse inherited the tobiano white pattern but just had Overo white then it would probably just be Overo. But it's really hard to say without a pic. Can you link to the ad?
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toto 03-24-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Peppy Barrel Racing (Post 2007337)
I'd have to see the horse but unless the horse inherited the tobiano white pattern but just had Overo white then it would probably just be Overo. But it's really hard to say without a pic. Can you link to the ad?
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http:// http://images.craigslist.org...3f65fa14c0.jpg

She doesnt 'look' tovero-- isnt a horse thats tobiano & overo always a 'tovero'?


..my links arent working on the forum.. http://images.craigslist.org/3Ka3I83...3f65fa14c0.jpg

Peppy Barrel Racing 03-24-2013 01:11 AM

She looks splash and frame Overo she didn't inherit tobiano. I didn't explain myself good enough. I was saying unless she inherited tobiano which she clearly didn't she she can't be torvero a word I hate. She is Overo she has one or two Overo patterns. I'd think frame because the white has be restricted on the legs an the broadness of the white and splash cause of the smoothness of the white and its kinda bottom heavy. Both are Overo white patterns.
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toto 03-24-2013 01:59 AM

I thought if a horse has a tov parent that it wont be only overo, or tobiano-- thanks for clearing that up.

I also thought for a horse to be splash-- the horse had to have a bald face-- i wouldnt quite call that bald faced-- and had to have high whites?

Peppy Barrel Racing 03-24-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by toto (Post 2008313)
I thought if a horse has a tov parent that it wont be only overo, or tobiano-- thanks for clearing that up.

I also thought for a horse to be splash-- the horse had to have a bald face-- i wouldnt quite call that bald faced-- and had to have high whites?

That's where the frame comes in, frame suppressed the leg white it hates leg white and splash can be expressed in different loudness. It doesn't have to cover the whole face. I need Posiedon, ND, Chiilaa they can explain it better than me.
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toto 03-24-2013 02:15 AM

I think i get it-- what would her face marking be called-- bonnet, right?

how her coronets go up the backs of the fetlocks dont mean anything?

Peppy Barrel Racing 03-24-2013 02:46 AM

I don't know the generic labels for the white I just try to know the white patterns causing the markings. As for the little white triangles I'm guessing splash tried to put leg white but frame suppressed most of it. But I'm sure the others could tell you more. I'm still getting into the in depth genetics of white patterns I like dilutions better :D
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toto 03-24-2013 02:50 AM

Eh-- i just know enough about color to be dangerous.:twisted: thats why i always question everything. Its interesting to me. dont most of them go to school for color genetics?

Peppy Barrel Racing 03-24-2013 02:56 AM

Yeah I think some of them have. I have a biology degree and have had college genetics classes but I'm learning about equine gentics on my own with the help of the others. Gotta give credit where its due :-). They always answer my questions and I've learned a lot from them but I haven't got to their level yet but I'm trying. I've improved over the year or so I've been on this forum :D
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