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babysitter 10-18-2008 11:47 PM

Help! mare in heat
Hello, I'm Toni aka the Babysitter. lol. I'm 47, in Oregon and ride a paint.
Any one have any input or similiar experience like this:

I've had Kit Kat 1 1/2 yrs. Shes 17. She's a dream come true. tons of professonal training. Was a student horse. All the right stuff. We ride trail only. Private properties, equestrian parks, the beach etc...
She's an alpha mare. She comes and goes in and out of problem...till today:
Today were riding on private property. 4 of us. all gildings except mine. In heat of course.'s never been a problem before. Up ahead in a fenced pasture is a small herd of shaggy, miniture, pinto ponies. Of course they all come up to the fence as were riding by. Well everyones horses are pretty fine with the new visitiors all running up and walking along the fence line with us. Except Kit Kat...she freaked out!! I mean freaked bad. Spun circles, uncontrollable, trying to get far away, ran away with me about 300 yards. Wouldn't woah, wouldn't slow down, just flat out flight!
I got her stopped and bailed off. She was high headed, nostrils flared, top lip turned up, sniffen the air and still nearly uncontrolable. I attempt to walk her toward the ponies so she'll see they're just little fuzzy ponies, but her fright became worse. I ended up having to back her up about 30 feet to distance ourself from them. She was shaken in her skin and sweating. Top lip still curling up and still freaked out. Some how, some way I got her back to the horse trailer. Took about 20 minutes to go 200 yards.
I learned later there was a stallion pony in the heard.
At home 3 hours later she had calmed a bit but was still pacing and looked worried.
Any one ever have a mare do anything similiar?
Or have any ideas as to what the heck possesed her.

Vidaloco 10-19-2008 08:29 AM

My Vida gets like that whenever there are boys around. different degrees of it but she still gives me fits when there are boys. Stallions or geldings she will kick any of them.
We ride with some friends who have a large number of horses. If one of the geldings come running up behind us, Vida goes goofy and tries to kick at them. Thats all fine and dandy unless I'm on her back. Makes for an intersting ride :???::roll:

NorthernMama 10-19-2008 10:22 AM

Maybe there was a stallion amongst the ponies. I don't think there is a "cure"!

aappyfan1 10-19-2008 10:39 AM

Even if one of the Ponies were a Stallion, She shouldn't have been that freeked. Maybe it is just because my mares are very calm around a Stallion or gelding. Its the boys that seem to get all worked up!

babysitter 10-19-2008 11:50 AM

There was definitely a stallion among the ponies. Probably/maybe why she was doing the lip curling thing.
I'm just a litttle freaked out about the whole thing because of the running away with me....Loss of control is scary and dangerous!
I'm 47, too old to hit the ground anymore. That's why I bought a well trained, older, calm, horse. I don't bounce like when I was 14 LOL.
I called her previous owner/ trainer. He was at a loss as to why she reacted that way. Said possibly she's had a previous traumatizing event take place which involved fuzzy mini-pony type animals. A bear maybe???
She is from Montana.
I just don't know, probably never will. I guess I just need to get back on her, get over it and move forward.

aappyfan1 10-19-2008 04:20 PM

I can really relate to what your saying about not bouncing like when you were 14, heck I am 10 years older than you and I got bucked off twice this year. I am really considering trading in my just started gelding on a well broke mare. lol

babysitter 10-19-2008 05:37 PM

That's exactly what I did. I had a 1000.00 dollar breeding stock paint gilding. He was 3yo. My husband bought him for me for my birthday. He was green. I worked with him and did fairly well, but got bucked off 6 months later and 3 months after my back surgery. (I was ok) So I sent him to Cary Cathy for training. He bucked off the trainer after 2 months. The trainer received a broken femer (a month before his roping compitition) and I was promply told to come get the horse now and remove him for the facicily. I then sent him to another trainer for 2 months who did quite well with him and released him back to me. About 3 months later he bucked me off again.
(He had a spooking problem and every time he spooked he went into a bronc show) Needles to say I sold him. Then.......
My husband bought me Kit kat 1 1/2 years ago for 3500.00 dollars. She's been a perfect charm...up until this mare/heat/fuzzy pony thing.
But I'm hopeful it has passed.
The lesson I learned? You get what you pay for. But all horses have a qurik at times.

travlingypsy 10-19-2008 07:32 PM

Does she get hot, when in heat? When ever my mare is in heat she can get hot. So I have to do extra work. And if im not on the ball with her attention on me she will bolt and spook. The last time she spooked, bolted and bucked three times. But then other cycles she is just fine...

babysitter 10-19-2008 09:33 PM

Honestly I don't know. She has been so status quo since day one, I have never made observatins about her cycle. Now I feel I need to. But not sure how. She's well manered at home and on the trail. A bit peppy, likes to be in the front. But I can't say I've seen 'her Hot'. She's white so her hind legs are constantly a mess unless I clean her up. I hardly do that monthly during the winter months, as here in Oregon our winters are from November through April (if we're lucky). I do hear her squeeling at the neighboring horses occasionally. I'm wondering if that's not about once a month. It may be, seems right. It may be a sign of her heat.
I never see her raising her tail or swishing. Her stable mate is a gilding. You'd think there'd be a sign.
I'm so happy to finally have someone say...their mare bolted too. I'm going crazy with worry about the whole thing.

Horse Poor 10-20-2008 02:13 AM

I've had several mares over the years and none of them have reacted the way you describe because they were in heat and a stallion was present. I have a mare who, when in heat, will "show" to anything with a pulse, others who were very quiet and others who were touchy squealers...they're all individuals. Horses are long-day breeders, most will not come into season at all during the winter, so she may not come in heat again this year. Personally, I think your mare was just plain afraid...the curling of the lip isn't only for breeding, horses do that to concentrate a smell. Mine will do the lip curl if they taste or smell something unfamiliar (like meds or supplements in their feed) or when sniffing a pile of poo on the trails. If you're curious, take her there again when she is not in heat and see how she acts...chances are her reaction will be the same.

Just my .02 cents worth...your mileage may vary.

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