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AmazinCaucasian 03-27-2013 06:19 PM

Bulk feed suggestions
Always fed bag feed but we're outgrowing im going the bulk route. Feed mill can custom mix, but they have a normal mixture which is:

17.5% corn chops
12.5% oats
50% corn gluten pellets
17.5% soy hull pellets
2.5% dry molasses

It's 16% protein
4% fat
15% fiber

Whattaya think these are working horses we're feeding

spirit88 03-27-2013 06:48 PM

The oats are ok don't like the corn part soy works if horses don't have any issues with it. Id go with bulk oats with nothing added.

I feed oats get 800 lbs from a local farmer payed 62 dollars for it. I feed a vitamin mineral supplement that covers what's missing. My horses do fine with this they are also hard working they stay pretty lean though. My hay is tested so I know what vit mins they need when my horses are working I feed up to 4 lbs twice a day of oats.

Not sure it will work for my gelding this year he's coliced 4 diffrent times now when fed oats.would not put molasses in any feed.

verona1016 03-27-2013 06:56 PM

Corn is not great stuff; it's extremely high in sugar/starch (NSC), kind of like feeding them candy. It doesn't get digested well and decreases the pH in the hindgut, leading to hindgut acidosis and ulcers.

See if they can mill you something that's based on alfalfa or beet pulp and use oil instead of molasses as a binder. My barn gets a very nice senior feed milled for them like this. Besides being healthier for them, a higher fat content will also help keep the weight on heavily worked horses.

AmazinCaucasian 03-27-2013 06:59 PM

Excellent advice thank you both

Any more input is welcomed!

Left Hand Percherons 03-28-2013 12:41 PM

Get the mill's nutritionist involved. Tell her what you want, the ingredients you want to use and what your target analysis needs to be as well as cost/ton. How much fat, fiber, protein... do you need to keep your horses in the condition you like? Be flexible to incorporate lesser cost items such as BP, alfalfa pellets, wheat midds, corn gluten (but not 50%!) depending upon upon the market. Add a vitamin/mineral blend if you don't provide it (blocks do not count). Soy oil makes a good binder to make everything stick.

Have them mill the smallest amount they will do for the first run. You might not like the consistancy or it might have too much of X... Some mills will bag but most will only sell bulk feed in 1000-2000# totes. You need to be able to move them and have someplace to store that much product. (1000# is about 4 55# drums full). The trash savings is a huge ++ going bulk.

AmazinCaucasian 03-28-2013 10:34 PM

Yeah I'm gonna start out just buying the totes. They're 1500# and I have equipment to haul and move them. I'll just do that until I buy or build a bin. They have an auger truck and only charge $5 a ton to deliver.

That 50% alarmed me too. That was part of the concern and why I wanted to ask here instead of googling it and getting an answer from someone who never owned a horse. I really need to study up on my nutrition! That's some good info, thank you

Trinity3205 03-29-2013 02:31 AM

I personally like a big higher fat content for a mixed feed concentrate. Closer to 6 or 8. You can feed less and not have to add oil to harder keepers.

ditto on the corn. No good. If you mix, do it without the corn or at least MUCH less.

Ditto on the molassas, but not as big a deal as the corn IMO unless you have a horse with sugar issues PSSM etc.

Ditto on on mixing your own mineral and just feeding oats and maybe flaxseed. Best choice IMO for bulk feeding.

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