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Aizea 10-26-2008 04:29 PM

What do you guys think of the "Tap Method"?
 
If you don't know what it is, look up Endospink on youtube. He has plenty of videos of him doing the Tap, a training method he has come up with.

SonnyWimps 10-26-2008 05:17 PM

forcing a horse to the ground is not my idea of training nor something I'd ever do or want to do.
So other people don't have to look on youtube...here is a link for one
This one actually shows from the other side on what the person does...and it IS just forcing the horse down

Spyder 10-26-2008 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonnyWimps (Post 174830)
forcing a horse to the ground is not my idea of training nor something I'd ever do or want to do.
So other people don't have to look on youtube...here is a link for one
This one actually shows from the other side on what the person does...and it IS just forcing the horse down


Hmmmm SW since the OP mentioned specifically the tap method as performed by endospink ( Paul Williamson) please do not show what other people are doing. Especially using the term hybrid in conjunction with those videos as this term is used exclusively by him. They are entirely different. :roll:

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SonnyWimps 10-26-2008 05:45 PM

Well she did say just search for that on youtube..and I did, and that's what it came up with.

EDIT: They used the word Hybrid, Sypder because they were using HIS technique....not because it's an "upgrade" to his

iridehorses 10-26-2008 05:49 PM

Laying a horse down is an extremely old method of teaching submission. There has always been a lot of controversy about it and was "successfully" used in the movie "The Horse Whisperer".

Like any training method it should be done by someone who knows the method and how to apply it correctly. It's not for every horse but it has it's place. I've never used it but I have seen it done with amazing results.

JustDressageIt 10-26-2008 09:13 PM

When Endospink uses the technique, usually it's on horses that would otherwise be heading to a dog food can pronto, so his extreme method is necessary.
For others that have more time to bring a horse around, I don't think the tap method is the way to go.
He also warns against using it on your own.
I think he is a highly trained professional that HAS turned many horses around, and kudos to him - they would be re-named Purina if he hadn't done something.

AllyKatSki1 10-26-2008 10:42 PM

I think its a realy cruddy way to get a horse to Submet (SP), there practicly (SP) dragging them the ground... and for what purpose??

JustDressageIt 10-26-2008 10:44 PM

Again, Endo uses this method to turn around horses that would otherwise be sent to slaughter. In my mind it's better being hauled to the ground a couple times than being sent to a can. He's done wonders with the horses. Go search him on Youtube.

iridehorses 10-27-2008 07:07 AM

Alli, They are not draged to the ground and there is a purpose. Please re-read the posts and follow the TAP webside: Home

This is a method that has been successfully used as last resort for well over 100 years.

Dumas'_Grrrl 10-27-2008 01:34 PM

The "TAP" is a tool and should be respected as any tool should be. Done correctly it is not damaging IMO.


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