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IceDancer94 04-02-2013 05:47 PM

How to get horse used to stocking over muzzle?
 
My mare is a headshaker and I am working on ruling out possible causes. I think she may be having some allergy problems and have heard that putting pantyhose over their muzzle can help tremendously. I made an nose net out of pantyhose, however, my mare is NOT having it! She tries to blow it off with her nostrils or chomp at it.
Any ideas on how to get my mare used to this? Really, I just want to see if the stocking helps. If I could get her to tolerate it long enough for me to lounge her and see if it stops the shaking, I would take it off and immediately purchase a more expensive nose net. I just need this as a diagnostic tool.

Thanks!

GotaDunQH 04-02-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IceDancer94 (Post 2108113)
My mare is a headshaker and I am working on ruling out possible causes. I think she may be having some allergy problems and have heard that putting pantyhose over their muzzle can help tremendously. I made an nose net out of pantyhose, however, my mare is NOT having it! She tries to blow it off with her nostrils or chomp at it.
Any ideas on how to get my mare used to this? Really, I just want to see if the stocking helps. If I could get her to tolerate it long enough for me to lounge her and see if it stops the shaking, I would take it off and immediately purchase a more expensive nose net. I just need this as a diagnostic tool.

Thanks!

First course of action is to call a vet.

IceDancer94 04-02-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GotaDunQH (Post 2108169)
First course of action is to call a vet.

Vet has been out and has ruled out ear mites, dental, pain, etc. However, allergies weren't discussed at the time. Vet recommended a light sensitivity mask which has done nothing.

Laffeetaffee 04-02-2013 05:59 PM

Will she let you put your hands all over her muzzle? Will she let you squeeze the sides of her mouth? Have you made sure she can breathe easily through it and that it's not too thick?

Also might be a good idea to shave her muzzle very well before putting it on so it's not tickling her.

GotaDunQH 04-02-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IceDancer94 (Post 2108225)
Vet has been out and has ruled out ear mites, dental, pain, etc. However, allergies weren't discussed at the time. Vet recommended a light sensitivity mask which has done nothing.

You need to discuss allergies so you know what you ARE and AREN'T dealing with. If your vet can't provide you allergy tests and info, find someone that does. You could be dealing with something else entirely. When performance in the horse falters, ALWAYS rule out physical issues first...by someone qualified.

DieselPony 04-02-2013 06:53 PM

This is just my thinking, but how would putting on a nose stocking and lunging tell anything?

Everyone I know who has allergies, the flare up doesn't instantly go away as soon as they stop breathing in the pollen, cat dander, etc. so that theory seems strange to me...

But for the training her to accept it part, I think I would start with a "tube" of pantyhose. Put it around her jaw where she is used to the halter sitting and slowly unroll it to cover her nostrils/mouth. Assuming you can handle that area very well first.

franknbeans 04-02-2013 06:57 PM

If I were the mare I wouldn't tolerate it either! Using something like this to help ?solve? head shaking? I would think it would get much worse with this on. I would also caution you-that it may get clogged with mucous and make it tough for her to breathe leading to panic. Personally, I have not heard a worse idea in a long time.

IceDancer94 04-02-2013 07:30 PM

For those that are unaware of this method:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegSrwcSF3k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

(My mare exhibits the same exact pattern of headshaking as this horse.)
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Palomine 04-02-2013 07:34 PM

How long is this supposed to stay on?

And I'd be worried about horse eating it too, as they are wont to do those types of things.

Have you had MRI's done to see what else could be going on?

I second getting a better vet out, as could be something in feed, surrounding, or what have you.

Phly 04-02-2013 07:39 PM

Could ya just try Benadryl? Just a thought...
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