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Golden Horse 04-12-2013 12:29 PM

Spurs and the reining horse, and other assorted questions
 
I am an English rider, and I feel odd wandering over here, but I have questions..

I took Big Ben to a local Western Schooling show a couple of weeks ago, and we trotted a beautiful pattern:oops: Well we aren't cantering yet and the experience was good for him, and I have to say that we had the best shaped circles of anyone there:lol:

I do have some questions though, are reiners usually ridden in spurs? The coach for the day was trying to help a girl with her spin, and was asking why she wasn't in spurs, and was saying that if the rider attended one of her clinics she would be wearing spurs by lunchtime on the first day.

How do you avoid getting dizzy in those spins?

The place where we were had the cutest looking Paint stud for sale, only small at 14hh, but the owner/breeder said that he would carry my huge great butt in competition without any issue. Idle thought is there a greater tolerance or acceptance of larger riders in reining? I often hear the sport quoted in the great Weight Debate threads.

I have to say that I was lucky enough to have a few lessons in the UK and a mare who was a reiner, and learning to do roll backs was the most fun that I have had in a western saddle, it is quite possible that I could be convinced to dip a toe in the water and have a little fun!

Muppetgirl 04-12-2013 01:23 PM

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Yes, spurs are somewhat of a necessity, because you want a 'snappy' horse! I always cue with my leg and rein first.....if I don't get a response I lay my spur on......I can easily ride my horse without spurs, but he's sharper and more responsive when I wear them.....remember we don't have a crop to back up up:wink: some times split reins work well to reinforce, but you can't use them during a class.....instant zero.

There are my spurs:

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And yes, some big men and women ride the reinng horses. I've seen a 250lb man riding a 15.2hh QH, and he rode it right through training up to reinng shows.....these horses are trained fairly vigorously. There seems to be a lot more acceptance in reining....especially if your good at what you do. There also doesn't seem to be the 'judging' of others so much....I find it a very supportive crowd of people.....

Oh and just to add: roll backs are my favorite maneuver!!! Love them!!!

Oh I also forget to mention.....a good spin if your not used to it, will make you dizzy.....there are several tips on how not to get dizzy, like looking in the direction if the spin....

Golden Horse 04-12-2013 01:28 PM

I was thinking of this combination?

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...a68d171bc7.jpg

Muppetgirl 04-12-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Golden Horse (Post 2207473)
I was thinking of this combination?

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...a68d171bc7.jpg

It's worth a try!!! What breeding is she???

Muppetgirl 04-12-2013 01:36 PM

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This is Shawn Flarida, I have one of his books.....he is not a feather weight and is very very successful at what he does....

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Golden Horse 04-12-2013 01:38 PM

100% full up Arab:D

I have no thoughts of glory, but it just might be a fun direction to start Emmy on, we have a fairly blank slate to work with, and I have no idea how she will like it.

I may have to wander over and chat to the locals:wink:

SlideStop 04-12-2013 01:40 PM

The mare I ride where I work (I call her "mine" as I used to be the only one to ride her for two years) can be ridden without spurs. She will spin, roll and speed up without them. When I add spurs on once in a while (usually lessons or refinement) she is a whole 'nother level of awesome. She does everything with purpose, nice and snappy, without rushing. There's doing it, then there's doing it. She is all game face when the spurs come out.

All my trainers horses have to be ridden in spurs. They were trained and ridden in them all the time. If you don't have them good luck getting them to do anything besides a lazy trot. Once you have them on they are very polite about doing their jobs.

It doesn't seem to bother my trainer or her family. Personally I'd want a horse I didn't need spurs on, except for showing/serious training. I'm not a fan of dull-sided horses.

Also, as Muppet said, you never want to be left dead in the water. You don't want your horse thinking he can half-@$$ things and get away with it. English riders carry bats or crops, dressage riders have whips and western people prefer spurs. If you think about it spurs totally make sense. Good luck carrying a crop, a lariat and reins then using them effectively, all with two hands. Lol.
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Muppetgirl 04-12-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Golden Horse (Post 2207633)
100% full up Arab:D

I have no thoughts of glory, but it just might be a fun direction to start Emmy on, we have a fairly blank slate to work with, and I have no idea how she will like it.

I may have to wander over and chat to the locals:wink:

You should ask WSArabians.....she has reining trained Arabs and has showed them....and the fact that she has an awesome sense of humor helps too:wink:

nrhareiner 04-12-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Golden Horse (Post 2206881)
I am an English rider, and I feel odd wandering over here, but I have questions..

I took Big Ben to a local Western Schooling show a couple of weeks ago, and we trotted a beautiful pattern:oops: Well we aren't cantering yet and the experience was good for him, and I have to say that we had the best shaped circles of anyone there:lol:

I do have some questions though, are reiners usually ridden in spurs? The coach for the day was trying to help a girl with her spin, and was asking why she wasn't in spurs, and was saying that if the rider attended one of her clinics she would be wearing spurs by lunchtime on the first day.

Yes reiners are normally ridden with spurs. Better to have them and not need them then need them and not have them. A truely finised reiner will not really need spurs yet you will never see one with out them. At times it comes down to such a small area to cue a horse that the heal is too wide. Also it requires less movement of the foot when you have spurs on.

How do you avoid getting dizzy in those spins?

You do not look at the horse or keep looking at ever part of the turn. Watch when reiners turn. The riders head will snap from spot to spot. You pick points with in the turn and look for then on each revolution. This is also how you keep track of starting and stopping points.

The place where we were had the cutest looking Paint stud for sale, only small at 14hh, but the owner/breeder said that he would carry my huge great butt in competition without any issue. Idle thought is there a greater tolerance or acceptance of larger riders in reining? I often hear the sport quoted in the great Weight Debate threads.

Most reiners are about 14'2 on average. My Dun It mare is considered bug at about 15hh. Like has been pointed out with Shawn. Riders and trainers are normally bigger. Look at Tim McQuay.

I have to say that I was lucky enough to have a few lessons in the UK and a mare who was a reiner, and learning to do roll backs was the most fun that I have had in a western saddle, it is quite possible that I could be convinced to dip a toe in the water and have a little fun!

Reining is one of the must fun you can have on horse back. It can also be one of the most chalanging things you will ever try.

deserthorsewoman 04-12-2013 02:53 PM

I want more info....gh......let's do that....:thumbsup::clap::happydance:


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