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Vicizmax 11-14-2008 01:04 PM

Jumping & Dressage :)
 
I posted these 2 of the videos in other threads, and then I found this board!
So i'll just post it here again.. :P

ME JUMPING INDY (NEW):
Springning på Indy - HesteGalleri.dk

ME RIDING PASSION IN FEBRUARY (OLD):
(we are probably more than twice as good now! I'll post a new video soon.)

ME RIDING PASSION AT OUR SECOND COMPETITION (NEW):
(We only had 2 days to practice and he was very stiff after a few days break, so I think it went ok.)

missy06 11-14-2008 01:20 PM

Take all of this with a grain of salt, because I'm not trained in either dressage or jumping.

In the jumping video, it seems like you're leaning really far back coming into the fence, and pulling your horse's head back with you. In some of the jumps, this makes it seem like you're catching him in the mouth as he's stretching his neck to take off over the jump.

In the dressage video (the 1st one) it also seems like you're leaning really far back (and not just sitting deeply like one would in dressage) and there's something about your leg's angle that looks quiet off to me. It might be that your stirrup length is too short or that your lower leg is too far back.

Vicizmax 11-14-2008 01:31 PM

Thanks alot! :)

In the jumping video, my trainer tells me to sit back before the jump because i need to hold the horse back (first of all because otherwise he goes far too fast, and I have to lean back and have the horse in front of me) and only lean forward when the horse jumps and loosen the reins over the jump so the horse can stretch its neck.
Yes, I admit I have some problems with loosening the reins sometimes, and sometimes I dont lean forward in time.. -.- (like when I get 'thrown' over) I didnt really think about that when I watched the video myself, so thanks again! I'll think more about that next time :p

Yes, my legs are abit too long and the saddle too small for me, so I can see how my legs look wierd, haha! :p But I need to shorten the stirrups so that I can reach his sides.. x) Though it makes it look wierd and messed up.. x(

Equuestriaan 11-14-2008 03:30 PM

Well I don't know much about dressage, but in the second video you look like you're leaning back a lot, especially when you halt. Also it looks like your shoulders are bunched forward, try to bring them back slightly.

As for jumping, you have a really nice, steady seat. Your form was great over the jumps, and your lead changes looked really great.

Vicizmax 11-14-2008 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equuestriaan (Post 188953)
Well I don't know much about dressage, but in the second video you look like you're leaning back a lot, especially when you halt. Also it looks like your shoulders are bunched forward, try to bring them back slightly.

As for jumping, you have a really nice, steady seat. Your form was great over the jumps, and your lead changes looked really great.

Hmm, yes, you're right, I didn't notice that..! I can see now that I'm leaning faaar too much back when I halt ! :/ I'll work on that!

Thanks alot for the advice and comment!! :D

ohmyitschelle 11-15-2008 05:52 AM

Well I'm not perfect for critiquing but here's what I see. Sorry if I sound harsh in any way I'm not trying to be :)

You lean back WAY too much... I've been always taught that your ear, shoulder, elbow, hip, and heel should all meet in a straight line... I froze the videos in several places and you never matched up, in fact you're throwing yourself off balance by allowing your upper body to fall so far backwards.
I personally think your stirrups need to come down... I know the pony is quite small, and you're quite long... instead of compromising and allowing your knee and leg to cramp up, could you take your stirrups down, keep your heels down and give commands by using more of your lower leg? I'm not sure, I normally ride horses that I'm not too big on height wise.
Because your leg is so cramped up it makes it harder for you to sit forward and on your seatbones... you can't have a proper deep seat because your leg is pushing you back into a chair seat, which is also bringing your leg too forward in some points (mainly the halt). I really think lengthening them stirrups will help.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong with this... I'm only going from what I've been taught by a classical dressage rider. :)
x

Vicizmax 11-15-2008 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohmyitschelle (Post 189465)
Well I'm not perfect for critiquing but here's what I see. Sorry if I sound harsh in any way I'm not trying to be :)

You lean back WAY too much... I've been always taught that your ear, shoulder, elbow, hip, and heel should all meet in a straight line... I froze the videos in several places and you never matched up, in fact you're throwing yourself off balance by allowing your upper body to fall so far backwards.
I personally think your stirrups need to come down... I know the pony is quite small, and you're quite long... instead of compromising and allowing your knee and leg to cramp up, could you take your stirrups down, keep your heels down and give commands by using more of your lower leg? I'm not sure, I normally ride horses that I'm not too big on height wise.
Because your leg is so cramped up it makes it harder for you to sit forward and on your seatbones... you can't have a proper deep seat because your leg is pushing you back into a chair seat, which is also bringing your leg too forward in some points (mainly the halt). I really think lengthening them stirrups will help.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong with this... I'm only going from what I've been taught by a classical dressage rider. :)
x

Thanks! :)
I'll try lengthening my stirrups and see if I can still use my legs properly even if I can't reach his sides, hehe.. :p
It's funny, before I leant far too much forward and now I lean too much back.. xD I really need to get it in the middle.. :p

XxXequinegrlXxX 11-15-2008 08:16 AM

really you look almost left behind from your horse and pretty bouncy... but other than that not too bad

SonnyWimps 11-15-2008 09:45 PM

Dressage:
(OLD)
You are HOLDING the horse behind the bit...that is not only bad on the horse's neck, but it's not the correct position. Also the horse is hallow and is not collecting properly. YOu definately need to relax in the saddle...you are REALLLLLLY stiff. Take a deep breath and flow with his movements. He's a nice little gelding and is trying to give you his all, but, not trying to sound too harsh, but I think this might need to be said, you are being extremely too harsh on his mouth and not releasing (the reward) when he gets it correct.
(NEW)
A little nicer on his mouth, but still unforgiving with the bit. Try to be a tad bit softer with the bit. Other than that, your body is still stiff, but better than before.
SUGGESTIONS: For stiffness, try riding without stirrups for a while to help gain your balance. Also lower your stirrups down a bit also. Work on being gentle with the bit. Ask for him to put his head on the poll, once he does release as the reward....horsers learn from the release of pressure...then if he raises it up ask again, then release.

As for jumping:
Can't give any critique for I know nothing on jumping.


I'm sorry if I was overly harsh with the critique, but I wanted to state what I thought and what I thought you should know.

But I love his movements. He has nice gaits and is nice all around horse. I think he'll go far in dressage competitions! What breed and what age?
He's a nice little mover and I really like him!! If you find him missing...I'll admit to this one.....it was me :D

fedex 11-15-2008 11:45 PM

(I apologize in advanced. This critique is jumbled, I'm typing as I see it :) )

Your jumping position is not interfering with the horse, but it could use some work. Your release is minimal. Practice sliding your knuckles up his crest. Also, you are coming back down too quickly. Your horse will start dropping back rails.

Also, there are times when you are not giving your horse enough time to see the jump. Make sure that you are not just throwing them through the jumps. Your horse needs time to set up and rebalance. I also saw some deep spots. It happens. Your horse popped, and you did a nice job staying with him. Good job. You have flat hands (pet peeve). You will have more control if you have your thumbs up on top.

Only things about your horse: some cross-cantering. Work on lead changes coming from behind first, not from their shoulders. And he is a little above the bit. But he looks like he is a nice, willing jumper.

I'm writing this as I watch the video... So now I see that you are sitting too far back with your legs in front of you. And a bad spot. You got left behind. I think that again, this is an issue with your horse not having enough time to get his distance. You should turn to the jump when your horse's inside shoulder lines up with the inside standard. Half-halt with your outside rein to straighten, and ride forward through your turn. More cross cantering...

Make sure that your elbows are bent.
For the most part, you were staying with your horse. Sometimes those spots that you are unsure about cause you to get ahead. Just wait, and your horse will bring you up.

Your cantering seemed a little awkward and stiff. Go with your horse's motion.

Also, in those deep spots, maintain your canter pace. If you hold until you see your spot, then you'll be in too deep. Hence, the short spots.

Good job. :)


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