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Farmchic 04-16-2013 03:30 PM

What does natural horsemanship mean to you?
 
In my last thread some were asking for a definition of Natural Horsemanship and how does it differ from other types of training. While I'm a little hesitant to come back out onto the playground with so many bullies present I will start by giving my opinion.

To me Natural Horsemanship is a title given to a type of training that is not abusive. Now, I don't know where this name originated and agree that now it is used quite freely to market certain trainers products. I also feel that is just the world we live in today. Everything you own was probably advertised at one time or another. Is that why you bought the product? Who knows.

How is Natural Horsemanship different than other types of training? Well first I don't personally know any of you so I don't know what techniques you use. Are you using techniques that are "natural"? I'm sure all trainers use some techniques that are. But, I think only you can answer what type of trainer you are.

There you go. Bash away.:hide:

For those of you that know how to have a conservation (Conversation is a form of interactive, spontaneous communication between two or more people who are following rules of etiquette. It is polite give and take of subjects thought of by people talking with each other for company.) then I look forward to your opinions.

Golden Horse 04-17-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmchic (Post 2250689)

For those of you that know how to have a conservation


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2. a. Preservation or restoration from loss, damage, or neglect: manuscripts saved from deterioration under the program of library conservation.
b. The protection, preservation, management, or restoration of wildlife and of natural resources such as forests, soil, and water.

3. The maintenance of a physical quantity, such as energy or mass, during a physical or chemical change.

Golden Horse 04-17-2013 05:27 PM

Seriously, if this is your definition

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To me Natural Horsemanship is a title given to a type of training that is not abusive
Then we have to set about defining what is abusive, and there lies a lot of our issues.

I look at horses interacting, especially mares with their foals, and I see a lot of physical interaction, horses kick and bite each other when they are sorting out disputes, or keeping order.

I start to cringe when people talk about bits, shoes, whips and spurs being abusive, none of them are abusive to me, they CAN be abusive, but are not de facto abusive.

I want a training system that is designed to help me find the best way of training, and each horse is different, as I said on the other thread I believe, I take what works for me, and ignore what I don't.

Sahara 04-17-2013 05:34 PM

What is up with the recent NH obsession on this forum?

Natural Horsemanship: a one size fits all mentality of training that supplies newbies with just enough information to ruin a perfectly good horse or get themeselves killed.

toto 04-17-2013 05:44 PM

I will do a little NH style training depending on the horse-- anyone that knows anything about horses knows that one way doesnt work with every horse.. there will come a time whe. Youll have to figure out another way.. NH training is just another way to train.


Its not about 'products sold' its a method of training. Some people like to ask, others like to tell. I do both. Nothin wrong with it!

Endiku 04-17-2013 05:46 PM

What does the word natural horsemanship mean to me? Well honestly, I read it as 'Hey, I want your money...'

Farmchic 04-17-2013 06:37 PM

Oh dear...

I started this yesterday when everyone kept asking what is NH. Most of the replies continued to go to that thread instead of here. :-? That thread is now locked. If I could make this one disappear I would.

I'm sorry for the spelling mistake, it happens.

I do not wish to keep rehashing this subject.

wausuaw 04-17-2013 06:43 PM

To me "Natural Horsemanship" is a way of training that works with a horses mental state, and natural tendencies to get them to learn certain concepts. Rather than, say, using tools to force desired effect (such as, people using tie downs to keep horses head from tossing, or folks that put weights on gaited horses feet to promote higher steps, etc).

I think most of it is just a ploy- get cash, go with the fad. People have this concept that its soo much sweeter and nicer, but I don't think of it like that at all.

I think any training tool can be used as a weapon, and any person can be abusive. And sometimes, force is necessary. Sometimes it's not.

Golden Horse 04-17-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmchic (Post 2263945)
Oh dear...

I started this yesterday when everyone kept asking what is NH. Most of the replies continued to go to that thread instead of here. :-? That thread is now locked. If I could make this one disappear I would.

I'm sorry for the spelling mistake, it happens.

I do not wish to keep rehashing this subject.

This one I think should be left and I hope would get some interesting answers, I would LOVE to have a definition of what NH is, because unless we can define it, then people who are hating on it, really don't know what they are hating.:?

waresbear 04-17-2013 07:46 PM

Before I heard about the marketing associated with NH, it meant, to me, riding without a bra on and maybe topless if requested:lol:!


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