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Kati 04-17-2013 07:12 PM

Best Stud for this Mare?
 
And I know this is a touchy topic here but here I go any way. BO has told me he's determined to breed his mare. He wants to breed her to a 14.1 hh perlino AQHA stud owned by his friend. I personally love this stud for his personality, but his babies are mediocre at best most of the time. Out of the roughly 30 I've seen, maybe 2 stood out from the rest, and at that point it was only the fact that they were buckskin setting them apart from the other average/slightly above average quarter horses. All in all, this stud would make an amazing gelding: he's a laid back sweetheart and cowy. On top of it all, he throws the ugliest jug heads.
I'm determined to get the BO to look some where else for a stud. He told me to make my pick, and he'd look at said stud. I'd like to give said foal the best chance so I want to find a good match for this mare that would improve on her faults.
Mare (You've seen her before, but I don't have any conformation shots):
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Basic Stud Requirements:
1. AQHA/JC/APHA
2. Mare is not a cow horse if you can't tell. As much as the owner tends towards cow horses, I think it's a bad idea to take a WP/HUS mare and breed her to a downhill cow horse. The end result of such crosses always make me shudder.
3. Less than $1000, and that's really pushing it. He'd have to be a to die for stud.

Anyway, this is the one stud I've found so far that I really like. He's AQHA and AWR registered. His AWR foals tend to score 7+. Foals are all eligible for multiple registries including APHA and AWR. Also eligible for many futurities.

Introducing... Indian Artbeat
On Eagle's Wings Equine Center - Indian Artbeat

I'm just curious what you guys think of said cross or any other stallion recommendations. As I said above, BO is determined and I can't get him to say no breeding, so I've changed my aim to better stud.

sparks879 04-17-2013 07:19 PM

Do you have a pedigree on the mare?

Left Hand Percherons 04-17-2013 11:11 PM

Does the owner think she is cowy and does he want a foal with those traits? If he does, he would never even look at a HUS stallion.

RunSlideStop 04-17-2013 11:22 PM

Left Hand Percherons has a very good point. What does the owner want to get out of the foal? If he just wants to breed the mare and sell the foal, that stallion seems decent. If he has a specific kind of horse in mind (a ranch horse), I might be more inclined to look for a reining stud, or at least a working cow horse stud. They tend to be a little more level, though could be long-backed. My biggest concerns would really just be to make sure the horse has decent legs and a strong enough back. The mare provides decent looking legs, and actually seems fairly well-built to me, so I think a level stud with some sturdy legs would be good.

Anyway... If the owner doesn't mind a definitely HUS/dressage type, I think Indian Artbeat is decent. This boy also seems fairly decent and has a little more "oomf" that could carry the foal into the cow ring a little more than the "Iron" line: Rosenfeldt Quarter Horses home of Duplicated Deck, Br I Am and Its All About Blue, offering quality hunter under saddle prospects for AQHA and NSBA

oh vair oh 04-17-2013 11:51 PM

If he's determined to breed her to "a 14.1 hh perlino AQHA stud owned by his friend", I'm pretty sure his budget is more in the $250-500 range, and live cover most likely. (Sometimes just because you can breed to a $1000 stud, doesn't mean they'll let you. xD)

paintedpastures 04-18-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oh vair oh (Post 2267601)
If he's determined to breed her to "a 14.1 hh perlino AQHA stud owned by his friend", I'm pretty sure his budget is more in the $250-500 range, and live cover most likely. (Sometimes just because you can breed to a $1000 stud, doesn't mean they'll let you. xD)

I'm thinking the same :-(
Looked for studs in your state that had Lower fees that aren't bad :wink:
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1764092 - DIRTY IMPRESSION
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1857449 - Rock Four

oh vair oh 04-18-2013 12:02 AM

^^ the Rock Four horse looks promising. Love Sonny Dee Bar and Jetalito lines.

And has "color" too ;)

paintedpastures 04-18-2013 12:07 AM

He also is more a pleasure horse{ WP/HUS} which would be breeding more on lines mare is bred for :D

oh vair oh 04-18-2013 12:11 AM

I think he has gorgeous coloring to boot. (not that it matters, but hey, maybe he'd trade in a perlino for a sabino?)

http://www.prairiewindspaints.com/Re...s/IMAG008A.GIF

Kati 04-18-2013 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons (Post 2266833)
Does the owner think she is cowy and does he want a foal with those traits? If he does, he would never even look at a HUS stallion.

No, owners preference is cow horses, but he is aware that shes not. The biggest thing is that he can look at a cow horse abd say confidently, that's a great horse but has no idea what he's looking at in a WP or HUS stallion. In that case, he wants proven off spring. He's always dealt with cow horses.

I asked if he only wanted live cover or if he wanted to look at AI and he said that AI was fine.

Stud fee is $1000 at max but only if the stallion is excellent. You're right when you say $250-$500 is more what he wants, but he said hed pay more for an excellent stallion.
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